…a more rational, calculating, intelligent guy will come, Yes, but I just wouldn't use these terms because remember that people say Trump is crazy, cognitively limited, denying things. But never forget that this was also the reason of his success, you know,…

…so simple. I think that if you look at successful right-wing fascist leaders like Hitler, He was even more hysterical and so on than Trump in the public. But at the same time, he was more successful in getting the support of big industry and so on, all…

…should take some risks now, because literally we stand for the future. Biden is, as I put it in another text, slightly provocatively, Trump with a human face, although I think I was wrong there, because at the same time, in some vulgar sense, Trump is…

…provocatively, Trump with a human face, although I think I was wrong there, because at the same time, in some vulgar sense, Trump is Biden with a human face. Biden is a big capital establishment, but with all his obscenities, dirty jokes, Trump, who…

…in some vulgar sense, Trump is Biden with a human face. Biden is a big capital establishment, but with all his obscenities, dirty jokes, Trump, who stands for the same, gave in the vulgar sense of it's human to be vulgar. A kind of a human sense. Well,…

…and so on and so on. And as simple as that, this cannot be left to the market. And they are doing it. Look, Trump manipulated like crazy. We know where the money went, no? It's all these trillions of dollars. Most of it to save companies. But even…

…are changing radically. That's why, for example, I still speak to guys like Julian Assange, you know, and my idea is always if Trump is now preparing long lists of pardons for everybody, including himself and his family. It would be nice, I would look at…

…Trump is now preparing long lists of pardons for everybody, including himself and his family. It would be nice, I would look at Trump a little bit more kindly if he were to include into the list Snowden and Julian Assange, you know. Because we cannot…

…it's not even you can't even pull the wool over people's eyes anymore. They're not even trying in the way that, you know, Trump is vulgarity. You know, he says the quiet part loud. He takes the mask off. That's that's pretty much it for global…

…at what governments had to do. Boris Johnson had to nationalize railways temporarily and so on and so on. They were doing, they, even Trump up to a point, were forced to do measures which, if you were to mention them a year ago even, you would be…

…Now the real struggle begins. And I think that the left, I will give you a very simplified answer, didn't learn enough from Trump. This obsession with the center, you know, with. Trump is too extreme, but that's how Trump won. Trump played a more radical…

…left, I will give you a very simplified answer, didn't learn enough from Trump. This obsession with the center, you know, with. Trump is too extreme, but that's how Trump won. Trump played a more radical game. He didn't worry about liberal center and so…

…simplified answer, didn't learn enough from Trump. This obsession with the center, you know, with. Trump is too extreme, but that's how Trump won. Trump played a more radical game. He didn't worry about liberal center and so on and so on. And that's how…

…answer, didn't learn enough from Trump. This obsession with the center, you know, with. Trump is too extreme, but that's how Trump won. Trump played a more radical game. He didn't worry about liberal center and so on and so on. And that's how he won.…

…those for whom people thought that they are predestined by their ethnic identity and so on to vote for Democrats voted for Trump. Many Latino Americans in southern Texas voted for Trump. Some blacks voted for Trump. Some women voted for Trump. So what I'm…

…by their ethnic identity and so on to vote for Democrats voted for Trump. Many Latino Americans in southern Texas voted for Trump. Some blacks voted for Trump. Some women voted for Trump. So what I'm saying is that the only good thing that happened…

…and so on to vote for Democrats voted for Trump. Many Latino Americans in southern Texas voted for Trump. Some blacks voted for Trump. Some women voted for Trump. So what I'm saying is that the only good thing that happened is that democratic majority in…

…voted for Trump. Many Latino Americans in southern Texas voted for Trump. Some blacks voted for Trump. Some women voted for Trump. So what I'm saying is that the only good thing that happened is that democratic majority in Congress is now minimal.…

…am I mentioning this? Because I think the big mistake of the mainstream Biden Democrats is that they know even less than Trump what is going on at the level of customs, social morality, communal spirit. They simply think Trump was a catastrophe. Let's…

…they know even less than Trump what is going on at the level of customs, social morality, communal spirit. They simply think Trump was a catastrophe. Let's return. I mean, their point is even more than Trump's, let's make America great again. Yeah. I…

…them with too much leftism, but precisely those desperate, new impoverished, lower, even white lower middle class people who now vote for Trump. For Sanders, he was clear on this, although he didn't like, for obvious reasons, to talk too much, that the key…

…the key to the authentic victory of the democratic left should be, let's get Trump's voters, those who otherwise vote for Trump. And on the other hand, AOC, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, also saw very clearly that, okay, Trump should have been deposed because…

…voters, those who otherwise vote for Trump. And on the other hand, AOC, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, also saw very clearly that, okay, Trump should have been deposed because things were getting simply too crazy in the sense of he was undermining to such an…

…left today should accept this term silent majority. My critique, and this is what I forgot to tell you before, this is where Trump goes. Partisans of Trump who claim he's a Christian and so on, and they dismiss Democrats as some LGBT madman. I am for…

…this term silent majority. My critique, and this is what I forgot to tell you before, this is where Trump goes. Partisans of Trump who claim he's a Christian and so on, and they dismiss Democrats as some LGBT madman. I am for LGBT incidental criticism.…

…postmodern relativism we mean guys who claim everything is relative, everything can be cynically manipulated, relativism, universal irony, then Trump is your genuine postmodern relativist president. And if Bernie Sanders is something, he is, I love this, he is…

…decency and moral. I think we should shamelessly play this game, which is why, as AOC said, okay, we have to get rid of Trump. Now the real battle for the soul of the Democratic Party and so on begins because there is one text I think in my…

…book where I try to develop it how basically United States are now a four party system. No, not two. You have Trump populists, you have the old Republican conservatives, you have liberal Democrats and you have democratic socialists. And the point is how…

…in the United States, here also, all around Europe and here, The state is simply, silently doing what I call following the Trump line, losing or renouncing even control. The first step was when they publicly declared that they are not able to trace your…

…not even very radical, like, social democratic, whatever you call it, party. So this gap worries me very much. And I think Trump also functions in this way. That's why against Trump, I don't think it's enough to say he's threatening our democracy, let's…

…call it, party. So this gap worries me very much. And I think Trump also functions in this way. That's why against Trump, I don't think it's enough to say he's threatening our democracy, let's return to our democracy. No, that traditional liberal democracy…

…She's a nice example of what some of my French theorists already developed as the new grotesque or obscene master, you know. Trump is also a master in this. You know, the old masters, masters in the sense of political, public figure, leader, boss, they…

…they played this rule of untouchable dignity. You know, this dignity was never... They were aspirational. They were aspirational. Because, you know, Trump likes to use it. You know, when Trump was quoted saying that the COVID will be over in April, he said…

…You know, this dignity was never... They were aspirational. They were aspirational. Because, you know, Trump likes to use it. You know, when Trump was quoted saying that the COVID will be over in April, he said it's in March, no? And when he told him,…

…was totally untouchable. You know, nothing should be publicly said that would diminish, undermine the figure of the leader. Now with Trump and so on, we have something very strange. We have a leader who already tripped. behaves towards himself in an obscene…

…why, don't you agree? That's the problem with all those, John Stewart, blah, blah, blah, or Alec Baldwin, who make fun of Trump. It doesn't quite work because Trump is very funnier. Exactly. Did you invite her? Many people don't like her. I think,…

…problem with all those, John Stewart, blah, blah, blah, or Alec Baldwin, who make fun of Trump. It doesn't quite work because Trump is very funnier. Exactly. Did you invite her? Many people don't like her. I think, nonetheless, that Angela Neigle in her...…

…more on the side of Armenia. Because I know, I know my, some of friends, Slovenia is, as your beloved president, not Lukashenko, but Trump would have put it, Slovenia is a fit call of a country, a small country where And this is where I have a fond…

…is with them, talks with them. My own idea is that if there is a post-modernist, totally ironic, brutal, tasteless, Trump is a post-modern president in this. I wouldn't disagree with that. Bernie was an old-fashioned, wonderful moralist. That's also why…

…to obey it. Sorry, please go on. No, no, go ahead. In Pandemic 2, you made a kind of like... you talk about how Trump broke the rules when he publicly commented on the fact that First Lady Melania was not ever flatulent in front of him? Like she…

…not ever flatulent in front of him? Like she never... You know what I found? I think I have a paragraph in the book. Trump is always... Reproach for lying, you know, all these texts immediately. How many lies did he say in his last interview? But what…

…these texts immediately. How many lies did he say in his last interview? But what really shocked me is how, and here I think Trump is even more terrifying, how he tells the truth when it should have been too obscene to tell it. For example, do you…

…I want less Democrats to vote. Yeah, yeah. It's like saying that she's the wrong kind of minority. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the same. Trump is here. What do you think, frankly? Okay, we are a couple of days to the election. I think he still has a chance…

…circle in Democratic Party? Was it their decision to get somebody like Biden as a candidate, you know? Yeah, yeah. Because they want Trump to win. Yeah. But how is it now with, you know, okay, let me tell you another totalitarian thing, which is not yet…

…almost I would say philosophical problem, you know. I don't think all people who protest masks are just crazy Trump nationalists. It's something horrible that is happening. Our basic mode of everyday life, communicating with others, socializing and so…

…know. I think that the special problem of the United States is that almost nowhere in the world is this... conflict between, okay, Trump is not a COVID denier, but he is a guy who thinks COVID shouldn't be considered as too important, some kind of…

…speaking to him in Slovenia also. Yeah, we've never heard him speak, so he might be. I wouldn't be surprised if Barron Trump spoke a little Slovenian. Yeah, although he, Melania, ignores all Slovenian links. You know, they tried to get some statement from…

…No, no, no. I heard the rumor at Slovenian embassy in Washington that she's totally under control. Like, you know, every public move, Trump people control her and so on and so on. He's heavily surveilled. I mean, I guess it's a flattery. I find it nice…

…people control her and so on and so on. He's heavily surveilled. I mean, I guess it's a flattery. I find it nice when Trump said about Kamala, did you hear this, that she's not only a socialist, she's much worse. She's a communist. I was hoping he'd…

…that's a superficial distinction anyway. But let's start with an interesting question about the US elections. I want to talk about Trump and the mess that's happened or gone down yesterday. Now, in a 2019 op-ed for The Independent, Professor, you wrote that…

…that's happened or gone down yesterday. Now, in a 2019 op-ed for The Independent, Professor, you wrote that the fear that a Trump victory would turn the US into a fascist state is ridiculous exaggeration. And he offered two arguments in support of this.…

…the U.S. had robust institutions and checks and balances to keep the president in check. And the second one is that the Trump victory triggered a process of radicalization that would galvanize the left and eventually fuel them and give them more energy and…

…think, and many of my friends disagree with it, that to put it in one sentence, no Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez without Trump. I think that this is part of the same process. the rise of the two of them, which I call, unfortunately, I'm…

…unfortunately, I'm not just glad about it, the disintegration, gradual disappearance of what we could have called liberal center. The way Trump is talking, it's typical. And I don't think this is just a falsity. Of course, it's false. It's crazy. But it…

…recognize any democratic socialist opposition. You were a collaborator of Nazis, of British spy service, whatever. It's the same with Trump. I noticed carefully that Melania Trump designated Biden as a socialist. He says she's a socialist. Then what about…

…You were a collaborator of Nazis, of British spy service, whatever. It's the same with Trump. I noticed carefully that Melania Trump designated Biden as a socialist. He says she's a socialist. Then what about Kamala Harris? Trump said it's even worse, she's…

…Trump. I noticed carefully that Melania Trump designated Biden as a socialist. He says she's a socialist. Then what about Kamala Harris? Trump said it's even worse, she's a communist. Now, we can say this is ridiculous. If there ever was a moderate guy,…

…Protests. What was so tragic is that they expressed a certain discontent, but in contrast to the United States, where... Trump and partially democratic socialists captured part of this discontent. In France, it didn't work. The Yellow Wests were not able…

…out. I just think that a certain gap is appearing between, let's call it spontaneous self-perception, ideology of ordinary people, and that Trump was much more adept in catching this in a On the opposite side, here I stick to my old analysis, Bernie…

…obsession, we have to get centrist voters. No, Bernie said our aim should be to get those who otherwise would have voted for Trump, this populist discontent. He is almost, I know a nonsense of this, Trump of the left. So basically, I still cling to…

…be to get those who otherwise would have voted for Trump, this populist discontent. He is almost, I know a nonsense of this, Trump of the left. So basically, I still cling to my... basic opinion that Trump is not a simple mistake. He expresses a certain…

…He is almost, I know a nonsense of this, Trump of the left. So basically, I still cling to my... basic opinion that Trump is not a simple mistake. He expresses a certain tendency, which is of disintegration of liberal democracy. And I think in the long…

…leftist turn, we alienate many votes. But on the other hand, It's not as simple as that. Let's take the lesson of Trump himself. He was doing on the opposite pole precisely this. No compromises with liberal center, shocking people again and again, not…

…posts and so on. Not that I was something big, but, you know, Slovenia is, as the most beloved president in the world, Trump, said, a hit hole of a country. So it's a small country. We knew each other. Everybody knew each other. So, okay. They…

…I think I'll just integrate the follow up into this last question, really. And that's to say, let's loop back to Mr. Donald Trump. Now, I know the Slovenian PM was the first leader to congratulate and also support Trump. He's what I call the new…

…say, let's loop back to Mr. Donald Trump. Now, I know the Slovenian PM was the first leader to congratulate and also support Trump. He's what I call the new European axis of evil. I see. Slovenia, a little bit not really Czech Republic, Poland, some…

…Poland, some Latvian states, Hungary, of course. He's fully part of that. And you know where he's personally very close to Trump? He has this Trump's Stalinist attitudes. You don't have Trump and then his moderate liberal opponents. If you're against Trump,…

…part of that. And you know where he's personally very close to Trump? He has this Trump's Stalinist attitudes. You don't have Trump and then his moderate liberal opponents. If you're against Trump, you are socially communist and so on. For Janša, our prime…

…close to Trump? He has this Trump's Stalinist attitudes. You don't have Trump and then his moderate liberal opponents. If you're against Trump, you are socially communist and so on. For Janša, our prime minister, those who oppose him are part of the deep…

…today, then, if you had, say, the opportunity to say, unfiltered, uncensored, one minute of time or 30 seconds you would spend with Donald Trump right now, what would you say to him if he were in the same room as you and just you two? I would try…

…mean, you know, stakes are simply too high. What is, in a way, decided in this vote is maybe even the fate of humanity. But Trump is an extremely vulgar guy. So the only thing that comes to my Jared Kushner did it for him. That British plan, no? And…

…extremely vulgar guy. So the only thing that comes to my Jared Kushner did it for him. That British plan, no? And you remember Trump used an expression which was very weird. He wanted to say, I asked Jared to give me a quick overview of Middle East…

…was very weird. He wanted to say, I asked Jared to give me a quick overview of Middle East situation, no? And you know what Trump said? I asked Jared to give me a quickie. On. You know what for me the word quickie means? So my answer would have…

…word quickie means? So my answer would have been, sorry, but I have many sexual fantasies. I'm passionate. But Jared Kushner giving Trump a quickie is not my favorite sexual fantasy, you know. So I'm interested in Trump. I'm here a hardline Stalinist in a…

…sexual fantasies. I'm passionate. But Jared Kushner giving Trump a quickie is not my favorite sexual fantasy, you know. So I'm interested in Trump. I'm here a hardline Stalinist in a good sense. If somebody like Trump came to me, they want to tell me how…

…not my favorite sexual fantasy, you know. So I'm interested in Trump. I'm here a hardline Stalinist in a good sense. If somebody like Trump came to me, they want to tell me how I screwed Melania or whoever. I'm not interested in it. You give too much…

…me how I screwed Melania or whoever. I'm not interested in it. You give too much to him. You know, we should worry about Trump, what he's doing and so on. But that's a big thing. Don't get fascinated by Trump. charming people, but at the same time,…

…him. You know, we should worry about Trump, what he's doing and so on. But that's a big thing. Don't get fascinated by Trump. charming people, but at the same time, realists. And I don't think another thing I have here. This is what psychoanalysis taught…

…I always repeat against those who criticize postmodernism is, can you imagine a more relativist postmodern president than Donald Trump? He's full of postmodern identity, transgression. It's the time for us leftists to speak for ordinary people, common decency,…

…people, common decency, and so on. And, well, I hope I certainly count amongst the realists that you would fancy speaking to over Trump instead. No, no, no, no. OK, I will tell you something to conclude with a joke. I'm not sure where you really stand…

…read forgiving recollection is very, with regard to Hitler, is very popular today. This is even in... As beloved American, our President Trump would have put it, even in this shithole of a country, he used it for other things. Here in Slovenia, all the…

…which is in itself contingent creates its own necessary conditions. Things retroactively become contingent. necessary. But where I don't trust Trump, sorry, Trump, I trust. No, no, I have amongst five, ten minutes just. Okay, very quickly. You know where…

…in itself contingent creates its own necessary conditions. Things retroactively become contingent. necessary. But where I don't trust Trump, sorry, Trump, I trust. No, no, I have amongst five, ten minutes just. Okay, very quickly. You know where Trump is…

…I don't trust Trump, sorry, Trump, I trust. No, no, I have amongst five, ten minutes just. Okay, very quickly. You know where Trump is almost a Hegelian? He did something lately which I really admire. I'm so tired of these stupidities that Trump is lying…

…You know where Trump is almost a Hegelian? He did something lately which I really admire. I'm so tired of these stupidities that Trump is lying all the time. No, he's true in a horrible sense. I hate him. Subversive character is that he also tells the…

…to catch him, that he's really doing this to have less... And they ask him, why are you doing this? You know what Trump said? It's obvious. I want less Democrats to vote. He says the truth precisely when you would have expected it would hurt him.…

…house there, I always say that the crucial moment is when Norman carries mother from Iberich down to And this is what Trump is doing today. Isn't he carrying... Trump is our Norman Bates who is carrying ideas, American, to the basement of incredible…

…crucial moment is when Norman carries mother from Iberich down to And this is what Trump is doing today. Isn't he carrying... Trump is our Norman Bates who is carrying ideas, American, to the basement of incredible vulgarities and so on and so on. So,…

…never get the money. It's something very strange and new that is emerging in our economy already. And not to mention this, what Trump means as a phenomenon. I think we haven't yet fully grasped what Trump means. By Trump, I mean this open dismantling of…

…our economy already. And not to mention this, what Trump means as a phenomenon. I think we haven't yet fully grasped what Trump means. By Trump, I mean this open dismantling of truth and rehabilitation of directly of direct obscenity. I read a wonderful…

…And not to mention this, what Trump means as a phenomenon. I think we haven't yet fully grasped what Trump means. By Trump, I mean this open dismantling of truth and rehabilitation of directly of direct obscenity. I read a wonderful analysis of Trump.…

…By Trump, I mean this open dismantling of truth and rehabilitation of directly of direct obscenity. I read a wonderful analysis of Trump. Hegel would have been interested in it. You know, usually we assume, we accuse Trump of lying. Oh, that guy's twisting…

…obscenity. I read a wonderful analysis of Trump. Hegel would have been interested in it. You know, usually we assume, we accuse Trump of lying. Oh, that guy's twisting data. You know, all these CNN liberal sites where they enumerate, this week Trump said…

…we assume, we accuse Trump of lying. Oh, that guy's twisting data. You know, all these CNN liberal sites where they enumerate, this week Trump said 150 lies and so on. No. But I read an analysis which puts, no, the true paradox of Trump is not that he…

…they enumerate, this week Trump said 150 lies and so on. No. But I read an analysis which puts, no, the true paradox of Trump is not that he lies. All politicians do, more or less. But he says the truth where the truth should be embarrassing for him…

…Putin in a different authoritarian way playing a populist card. It doesn't work because, you know, you cannot bluff endlessly like Trump does here. We have a real problem. Numbers tell something. But if I may add another thing which interests, I hope,…

…were to propose them a year ago, he would have been called, ooh, crazy radical leftist. Boris Johnson temporarily nationalized the railways. Trump is introducing some form of almost universal basic income and so on and so on. So just keep this in mind.…

…doesn't mean I want a Lamborghini car, I get it, and so on. It means that, and everybody agrees with it, that's why Trump sent checks to tens of millions of people, that in such an emergency state, The priority is not profit market mechanisms and so…

…way. Let's call them the Establishment League and Bernie Sanders. It was a serious split there. Bernie was almost a Democratic Trump, because Trump also was at least part of the establishment of the Republican Party. But that was the problem for me.…

…Let's call them the Establishment League and Bernie Sanders. It was a serious split there. Bernie was almost a Democratic Trump, because Trump also was at least part of the establishment of the Republican Party. But that was the problem for me. I'm not an…

…personal contact. First, sex already became digital. I know, I follow the situation here in Slovenia, which is, as your beloved President Trump would have put it, a small kid's home country or whatever. Well, I'm from the same country, so maybe I'd object.…

…stop quickly, I will not get lost. I see now three main options. The one is Trump-Bolsonaro. Bolsonaro, nonetheless, much worse than Trump, which is, brutally, the main thing is that economy is moving and that our, what we consider normal daily way of…

…together we can do it and so on. And now it becomes a paradox. I like it to annoy my pseudo-leftist friends. My approach to Trump is not that he's a too authoritarian leader, but that he's not enough. He acts more and more as one side in a conflict.…

…more the appearance of authoritarianism rather than the substance of it. Wonderful formula. Be really authoritarian. That would be my reproach to Trump. The price he pays for this is that now the United States is in a kind of ideological civil war, not…

…For example, in the United States, of course, it's not just black people. It's this ambiguous relationship towards Latino immigrants. Trump talking against them all the time, but we know now that you cannot simply organize normal harvest without them and…

…in the favelas and so on. Second thing, the state. Again, the state has to take it over, and they are doing it. Even Trump will be forced to evoke how it is called, that act from the 50s, Cold War, that the president can direct industry, what to…

…to people who tell me, oh, you are an old communist and you want to use this moment to propagate. No, sorry, but what Trump did with distributing trillions of dollars, okay, we can be very critical of how he did it, how many of this money really went…

…her, of course, of their needs, from everyone according to his, her, their abilities. Isn't this what we are, even people like Trump, Boris Johnson, what we are doing now? You don't ask yourself, are you a productive member of society? If by productive we…

…economy which consciously violates market principles. that the motive of production is no longer profit, we should, for example, now when Trump is talking about getting out of the lockdown and start moving the economy. But my idea is, of course, we cannot…

…elite and the honest communist kills himself, he is the honest guy. It's much more ambiguous, very interesting. It should be taken seriously. Trump. Now I have to admit You know, when I said better Trump than Clinton, you know, my wager was a very brutal…

…much more ambiguous, very interesting. It should be taken seriously. Trump. Now I have to admit You know, when I said better Trump than Clinton, you know, my wager was a very brutal Leninist. With Trump, there will be socialist reaction, Bernie Sanders and…

…I have to admit You know, when I said better Trump than Clinton, you know, my wager was a very brutal Leninist. With Trump, there will be socialist reaction, Bernie Sanders and so on. I was maybe right there. But now with coronavirus, no, no Trump. The…

…With Trump, there will be socialist reaction, Bernie Sanders and so on. I was maybe right there. But now with coronavirus, no, no Trump. The only thing that gives me some hope is that It seems to me, don't you have this impression, that other people…

…The only thing that gives me some hope is that It seems to me, don't you have this impression, that other people about Trump in administration nonetheless pursue a more rational politics, and I'm not quite sure, but that up to a point, Trump is getting…

…other people about Trump in administration nonetheless pursue a more rational politics, and I'm not quite sure, but that up to a point, Trump is getting irrelevant. Up to a point. Like, I know you have this move against the lockdown and so on and so on,…

…and so on, but Nonetheless, I think that difficult as it is for me to say this, but now I would say Biden better than Trump. Although he's far from ideal. Far from ideal, but you know, now we don't have time to dream about this. Now, I think, again,…

…is decided now. Now we are choosing a new world, de facto, if we want it or not. Now it's decided. Will it be Trump style of Capitalism doesn't matter if tens of thousands die. Will it be a new version of China totally controlled? Let's hope that…

…my professional deformation as a philosopher. I like to mystify things. I think it's a horrible thing, and I don't like Trump. He's an abomination. But that Donald Trump will maybe survive, if we will all survive his reign, as the ultimate... president…

…I like to mystify things. I think it's a horrible thing, and I don't like Trump. He's an abomination. But that Donald Trump will maybe survive, if we will all survive his reign, as the ultimate... president of avoiding conflict. Did you notice how often…

…have friends in Iran who are half arrested, but nonetheless... He told me this was a wonderfully done negotiated settlement after Trump ordered the killing of General Soleimani. They made a precise deal of how Iranians can bomb some empty, whatever, military…

…be sure that nobody is hurt, and they defused the tension. It's the same with North Korea. With all the talking, Trump actually defused it. President Trump proposed the reading, sorry, bombastic terms, claimed that if Hillary were to be the president, the…

…hurt, and they defused the tension. It's the same with North Korea. With all the talking, Trump actually defused it. President Trump proposed the reading, sorry, bombastic terms, claimed that if Hillary were to be the president, the possibility of a war…

…the president, the possibility of a war with either Iran or North Korea would have been much greater. The reason I worry about Trump are at another level. But if I make something, because you mentioned Oedipus, no? You know where I may be, not disagree,…

…falsify, obfuscate where the real problem is. For example, very briefly, in the United States today, the big opposition, will Trump prevail this neo-fascism authoritarian? But for me, the whole problem is that Trump didn't fall from the sky. Obviously, there…

…the United States today, the big opposition, will Trump prevail this neo-fascism authoritarian? But for me, the whole problem is that Trump didn't fall from the sky. Obviously, there was something wrong in this democratic hegemony. that all of a sudden the…

…sky. Obviously, there was something wrong in this democratic hegemony. that all of a sudden the space was open for a disgusting figure like Trump so I think it's not enough to say of course against Trump I am for no one should ask what did we do wrong…

…that all of a sudden the space was open for a disgusting figure like Trump so I think it's not enough to say of course against Trump I am for no one should ask what did we do wrong so that a monster like Trump was possible that would be my ultimate…

…not enough to say of course against Trump I am for no one should ask what did we do wrong so that a monster like Trump was possible that would be my ultimate position be skeptical about I want to just actually quote Daniela, if I may. The first week,…

…approach. He doesn't complain about victimization and so on and so on. And it's incredibly sad how now not only Donald Trump, of course, and his side, but even the majority of the establishment Democratic Party, now they are at the Bernie Sanders,…

…they are at the Bernie Sanders, you know. And all the progressives, truly progressives, like all those, the squad called by Trump, young ladies, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and so on, stood for Bernie Sanders. So, you know, problem is resolved for me here by…

…in the figure of Joker. from the movie. Some of my friends made a totally wrong leftist reading, like Joker is a metaphor of Trump. No. My point was, if you compare Joker with Trump, it's an insult to Joker, not to Trump. Joker, for me, in all his…

…friends made a totally wrong leftist reading, like Joker is a metaphor of Trump. No. My point was, if you compare Joker with Trump, it's an insult to Joker, not to Trump. Joker, for me, in all his madness and so on, does something beautiful. He…

…like Joker is a metaphor of Trump. No. My point was, if you compare Joker with Trump, it's an insult to Joker, not to Trump. Joker, for me, in all his madness and so on, does something beautiful. He identifies with his mask. He rejects to play these…

…something from Slavoj Žižek. And now? So that's my first question. So why do you choose this form? My second question is, yeah, Donald Trump and I think the president of Ukraine come from the TV show. So I use the German words, they are in some kinds…

…seriously, blah, blah, blah. I say, okay, but who is who? If this totally manipulative, ironic attitude is post-modernism, then Donald Trump is the ultimate post-modern president. And if you look at somebody, and that's what I like at him, and Bernie…

…I'm the true moral majority. And as a leftist, I'm tempted to do this. And another thing, when, sorry, what was your, yeah, Trump and so on. I think this is part of a larger movement. He presents in Deutsche this Angela Nagel book, Kill All Normies.…

…because that's the tragedy. is not just a guy who miraculously manipulated ordinary people and so on. Don't despise Trump supporters. They are desperate people. They clearly felt excluded in the sense that the democratic hegemony predominant, didn't address…

…too much to the left, but more moderate. No, it's to directly address those impoverished, desperate white people who now vote for Trump. It's a very difficult operation. So I think the... But you know what also surprises me? That's Trump at its purest.…

…people who now vote for Trump. It's a very difficult operation. So I think the... But you know what also surprises me? That's Trump at its purest. First, the incredible obscenity of Trump. Did you read... It happened a month or two ago. We always think…

…difficult operation. So I think the... But you know what also surprises me? That's Trump at its purest. First, the incredible obscenity of Trump. Did you read... It happened a month or two ago. We always think Trump went to the end, but then he goes a…

…That's Trump at its purest. First, the incredible obscenity of Trump. Did you read... It happened a month or two ago. We always think Trump went to the end, but then he goes a step further. She is in conflict with some lady, FBA agent, and some of her…

…conversations of phone became, I don't know how public, with her lover, and you can immediately found it on YouTube. You get Trump for two minutes in front of thousands of people, imitating her having orgasm and so on. Everybody thought, no, Trump is…

…YouTube. You get Trump for two minutes in front of thousands of people, imitating her having orgasm and so on. Everybody thought, no, Trump is ruined, it's not, but then this was... Did you read it a week ago, I read? You know the actress Gwyneth…

…a movie Joker, because some critics found that this character, the Joker, the villain of this movie, that he is... an embodiment of Donald Trump. And we saw the movie, and as far as we spoke about it, we do not agree with that analysis. I find that…

…society that can no longer keep the social bond alive. So let's start with this question. Okay, we have the idea of Donald Trump as a joker, but I believe that you will speak about him as an embodiment of a certain obscene political figure. So, please.…

…I, not surprisingly, agree with you. As I wrote somewhere, I think that it's an insult to Joker to compare him with Donald Trump, you know. Because Joker is a very interesting ethical position. The way I read him, he fully identifies with his mask. And…

…in private? And they told me I admired him for this. Exactly the same as in public. You don't discover a warm person behind, and Trump definitely is not this. Okay, so let me give you the basic plot I want to talk, we want to talk about today. I…

…authority loses its power, it is not possible to return to it. All such returns are a postmodern fake. And I think Trump is such a figure. He is not, in any sense, an authentic conservative. His conservatism is a postmodern performance, a gigantic ego…

…is a postmodern performance, a gigantic ego trip. Playing with traditional values mixing references to them with open obscenities, Trump is the ultimate postmodern president. It's very interesting that he's great, but he will probably fail to be the…

…did you notice how he is really, in a simple, not conservative sense, a figure of moral majority of simple values? Donald Trump is the emblematic figure of this new type of populist master. And the usual argumentation against him, that his populism, worry…

…his actual politics protects the interests of the rich. I think it's too simple. to say just this. The followers of Trump do not act irrationally. They are not victims of primitive ideological manipulations which make them vote against their interests. They…

…They are not victims of primitive ideological manipulations which make them vote against their interests. They are, I think, his Trump followers, quite rational in their own terms. They vote for Trump because in the patriotic vision he's selling around, he…

…vote against their interests. They are, I think, his Trump followers, quite rational in their own terms. They vote for Trump because in the patriotic vision he's selling around, he addresses their ordinary, everyday problems. Safety, permanent job, and so on.…

…because in the patriotic vision he's selling around, he addresses their ordinary, everyday problems. Safety, permanent job, and so on. When Trump was elected president, I was asked by a couple of publishers to write a book which would submit Donald Trump to…

…on. When Trump was elected president, I was asked by a couple of publishers to write a book which would submit Donald Trump to a psychoanalytic criticism. And my answer was that we do not need psychoanalysis to explore the pathology of Trump's success.…

…explore the pathology of Trump's success. The only thing to psychoanalyze is the irrational stupidity of the left liberal reactions to Trump. The stupidity which makes it more and more probably that Trump will be re-elected. Trump is not winning just by…

…the irrational stupidity of the left liberal reactions to Trump. The stupidity which makes it more and more probably that Trump will be re-elected. Trump is not winning just by shamelessly bombarding us with messages which generate obscene enjoyment at how…

…of the left liberal reactions to Trump. The stupidity which makes it more and more probably that Trump will be re-elected. Trump is not winning just by shamelessly bombarding us with messages which generate obscene enjoyment at how he dares to violate the…

…which generate obscene enjoyment at how he dares to violate the elementary norms of decency. Through all his shocking vulgarities, Trump is providing his followers with a narrative which makes sense. A very limited and twisted sense, but nonetheless a sense…

…you. We are all red under our skin. And this solidarity also signals the point at which Trump's obscenity reaches its limit. Trump is not... obscene when he thinks he is not, when he talks about the greatness of America, when he dismisses his opponents…

…and his obscenities are meant precisely to point out, by contrast, the level at which he is serious. So, again, don't underestimate Trump. But now I'm supposed to be, we rehearsed everything, interrupted by you to ask me the next question. Yes, so when…

…the price you have to pay to exercise power, which is also limited in this way. What is appearing today with figures like Trump, it's something that I would like to compare, and we both love them, with today's crime fiction. You know, the figure of…

…not only does not limit your power, but even strengthens it. You know, this is for me a symptom of where we missed what Trump is about. Maybe you remember years ago when he was still a candidate, how often liberal media said, when he did some obscenity…

…public where there are some erotic scenes. And in a big public meeting with his supporters, you can find it immediately on YouTube, Trump imitated her as if she's having an orgasm and so on. She can, it's, it's, it's... So, again, I want to point out…

…were waiting on the Mexican side of the border. One of those... poor desperate refugees from Guatemala, he was saying that, please, Mr. Trump, allow us in, we just want to be good workers, earning our modest salary, and so on and so on. But this…

…victim of 68 rebellion was the left. The left moved to the cultural domain. It became the cultural left. And I think Trump is a revenge for this, ultimately. It's Trump who won because he, as a right-winger, mobilized some old good. proto-fascists do some…

…left moved to the cultural domain. It became the cultural left. And I think Trump is a revenge for this, ultimately. It's Trump who won because he, as a right-winger, mobilized some old good. proto-fascists do some form of class struggle. But yes, I…

…model domains of ideology today. We have four or five forms of how. The ruling ideology appropriates ecology. First is Donald Trump, the simple denial, there is no global warming, blah, blah, blah. Then you have the capitalist solution. Market can do it,…

…generosity and so on? Do you find that... I would almost say this may surprise you because some idiot even called me, I'm Trump of the left, full of... The same obscenities. But I'm tempted to say, yes, what I admire about politicians like, I know…

…least they moved things. You know, there was some kind of mass mobilization. As I already said, apropos the opposition between Trump and Bernie Sanders, yes, I think we, the left, should shamelessly adopt the stance of not we are subversive, whatever. We…

…she explained it. No, it's not only old white men can lead us. Her point was a very intelligent one. Why did Trump win? Because he mobilized this also, among other things, of course. This poor, dissatisfied, half-unemployed white people and so on. And he…

…white people and so on. And he saw it very correctly that the way for Democrats to win is to repeat from the left what Trump did from the right. It's not what Joe Biden is doing to occupy the center, be more moderate, but to... Aim directly at those…

…to occupy the center, be more moderate, but to... Aim directly at those dissatisfied poor white people who were then seduced by Trump. No compromise with Trump or with any of his ideologists. But beware how Trump succeeded. And she sees this very well.…

…be more moderate, but to... Aim directly at those dissatisfied poor white people who were then seduced by Trump. No compromise with Trump or with any of his ideologists. But beware how Trump succeeded. And she sees this very well. That this opposition, old…

…poor white people who were then seduced by Trump. No compromise with Trump or with any of his ideologists. But beware how Trump succeeded. And she sees this very well. That this opposition, old white men versus, I don't know, young marginals, is not the…

I will not totally disappoint you, but maybe a little bit, because I thought of developing a certain line, from Trump as an example to general new figures of obscene masters, how to do it, and so on and so on. Because of some other health issues and…

…so focused, a little bit more fragmented and so on. I sincerely apologize. It will be a little bit, not so much about Trump. Again, since I didn't have time to prepare all the details, I will do today mostly something which I hope will not disappoint…

…to resume a comment which... If it appeared at all, I'm not sure. It must have been digitally, only, of course, on Trump, so that nonetheless I... somehow relate. I will return apropos Joker later to the Trump figure because what I find especially amusing…

…must have been digitally, only, of course, on Trump, so that nonetheless I... somehow relate. I will return apropos Joker later to the Trump figure because what I find especially amusing is that I surfed a little bit on the web comments on Joker and two…

…I surfed a little bit on the web comments on Joker and two figures are mentioned with Joker. One is of course Donald Trump isn't Trump the big Joker which reigns in the United States. The second guy is much more marginally, of course, but it's…

…a little bit on the web comments on Joker and two figures are mentioned with Joker. One is of course Donald Trump isn't Trump the big Joker which reigns in the United States. The second guy is much more marginally, of course, but it's predictably me,…

…more marginally, of course, but it's predictably me, no? Am I not the joker of philosophy? Why not? What I want to say about Trump is... I'm sorry if some of you already know this line, but it's important to make it, because I was again already accused…

…already know this line, but it's important to make it, because I was again already accused of, ah, I'm ambiguous, I'm again defending Trump. Believe me, I'm not. Look at my... I forgot which one. I think it's Trouble in Paradise book, where I opened the…

…one. I think it's Trouble in Paradise book, where I opened the book with this chapter, sorry, with this comparison, comparing Trump to... I said, imagine a nice reception, people nicely dressed, and somebody just there kneels down and sits in the middle…

…three weeks ago. I debated it with my friends there about these impeachment procedures. Why? Not that I have any doubt that Trump is guilty. Not that I have any sympathy about Trump. But you know who noticed this very perspicuously? Snowden from Moscow.…

…these impeachment procedures. Why? Not that I have any doubt that Trump is guilty. Not that I have any sympathy about Trump. But you know who noticed this very perspicuously? Snowden from Moscow. And incidentally, he is more and more my hero, Snowden.…

…so Snowden said something very simple, but I think absolutely crucial at this moment, political observation, that what makes this Trump impeachment procedure suspicious is that, what, if we, sorry, if we learned anything about from all the Wikipedia stuff,…

…wrote I mentioned, how is he called, the ex-boss of FBI, James Haley, or who he was, who he published his memoirs attacking Trump with the title Higher Duty, something like this. And I believe him. His accusations against Trump are true and so on and so…

…who he published his memoirs attacking Trump with the title Higher Duty, something like this. And I believe him. His accusations against Trump are true and so on and so on. I'm just saying that I fear almost more these honest patriotic guys. They are…

…I think it's beyond my comprehension, what American Democrats are doing. I really think are they all secretly funded, corrupted by Trump or whatever. They're doing everything possible for Trump to get re-elected. And I know how I was criticized three years…

…American Democrats are doing. I really think are they all secretly funded, corrupted by Trump or whatever. They're doing everything possible for Trump to get re-elected. And I know how I was criticized three years ago for, oh, you were for Trump. I was…

…They're doing everything possible for Trump to get re-elected. And I know how I was criticized three years ago for, oh, you were for Trump. I was not for Trump. I just thought, and it did happen, that Trump's election opened up To cut a long story, no…

…to get re-elected. And I know how I was criticized three years ago for, oh, you were for Trump. I was not for Trump. I just thought, and it did happen, that Trump's election opened up To cut a long story, no Bernie Sanders, no democratic socialism…

…thought, and it did happen, that Trump's election opened up To cut a long story, no Bernie Sanders, no democratic socialism without Trump. I may be wrong, but believe me now, I'm definitely not for Trump. He did his historical duty. He inadvertently, of…

…story, no Bernie Sanders, no democratic socialism without Trump. I may be wrong, but believe me now, I'm definitely not for Trump. He did his historical duty. He inadvertently, of course, revitalized the left. Now, his time is hopefully over, but I think…

…Bernie Sanders, who said enough of this impeachment story, it's ruining us. But back to my main line, as it were, about Trump. That's why... More about this tomorrow, but just to give you an idea... There are misuses of psychoanalysis in politics. And the…

…publishers approached me after Trump's election. They told me, this is so crazy. Would you write a book, a psychoanalytic reading of Trump? And my answer was a clear one. No, the only point where we need psychoanalysis is to grasp the stupidity of how…

…my answer was a clear one. No, the only point where we need psychoanalysis is to grasp the stupidity of how Democrats oppose Trump. Trump, you know, he is not a madman. Of course, within his scope. He's doing something which is very rational. He detects…

…was a clear one. No, the only point where we need psychoanalysis is to grasp the stupidity of how Democrats oppose Trump. Trump, you know, he is not a madman. Of course, within his scope. He's doing something which is very rational. He detects real…

…trouble in a populist way. He addresses these troubles and so on. He is not doing crazy things. So these endless jokes against Trump and so on and so on are... The crazy, the only really interesting analysis, right-wing analysis, but my God, I loved it.…

…what Fukuyama did for liberal capitalism, Hegelian reading as the end of history, the final stage, and so on, that we should do for Trump. And he does a kind of a Robert Brandon, by Brandon I mean, I refer to Brandon as a symbol, exemplary case of…

…point of a just society is a society of mutual recognition. And his point is, and unfortunately there is a truth in it, that Trump learned this, and it's very simple thesis, you must have heard it, but it's the first time that I heard it connected to…

…it's very simple thesis, you must have heard it, but it's the first time that I heard it connected to Hegel, that Trump saw that this white person, silent majority of poor, half-unemployed workers and so on, they didn't feel recognized by the democratic…

…workers and so on, they didn't feel recognized by the democratic establishment. And that, to put it ironically as a good Hegelian, Trump said, in a perverted way, I like this thesis, Trump did the same thing that, of course, at an absolutely positive…

…the democratic establishment. And that, to put it ironically as a good Hegelian, Trump said, in a perverted way, I like this thesis, Trump did the same thing that, of course, at an absolutely positive level, Morales did. The big act of Morales, I mean, I…

…Bolivia. You know, Morales simply brought in this silent indigenous mixed people who were simply excluded by the liberal elite. And Trump did... The same, not with the rich, the rich were in any case already in power. With all these half-unemployed, poor,…

…hearings. No feminine stupidity, no what male chauvinists call feminine, no excellent, tough questioning. And she said, when she supported Trump, she said something very ingenious. She said she saw it. She said that we... She was talking on behalf of…

…supported Trump, she said something very ingenious. She said she saw it. She said that we... She was talking on behalf of what Trump called the squad, you know. She said that we support Bernie not because of his good political stance and in spite of him…

…friends who know friends who know friends who know Hunter Biden, the son. And he told me this was general knowledge. Sorry, Trump is right there. Of course, his son is totally corrupted. Everybody knows this. But what I want to say is this, that...…

…it's wrong, this democratic strategy. Let's move to the middle, not to extreme. Let's expand. No, didn't they learn the lesson of Trump? This was why... Even the majority of the Republican Party thought Trump cannot be elected. No, he has proven a point…

…Let's expand. No, didn't they learn the lesson of Trump? This was why... Even the majority of the Republican Party thought Trump cannot be elected. No, he has proven a point that every Marxist leftist should learn today, that sometimes the only way…

…will be the strategy. Enough of my crazy improvisations. Let's stop it. You will hear more about it tomorrow. About not just Trump, but this, my thesis about this new obscene masters is not just this moralistic one. Ooh, now you can do anything. There…

…on, but you solve all the cases. You remain. Your authority remains. And that's what we should focus on with these obscene politicians, Trump, Boris Johnson, and so on and so on. No, I think all this obscenity of their acts is still in the function of…

…say, a false dignity. Because, you know, let's take even Boris Johnson, but I know it so well, I know a little bit better Trump. He is not just making fun, incredible obscenities and so on. The message beneath this is... I am obscene because I am like…

…if my urination is also a performance? My urination becomes a piece of art there. Maybe we should do something like this with Trump. But more about this tomorrow. I'm really... Oh my God, time is running. So let's do it. If we will have time today...…

…tomorrow. I'm really... Oh my God, time is running. So let's do it. If we will have time today... The way to react to Trump along the lines of Joker, I warn you. Another teaser. I will talk about people claim they attack me in Slovenia, you are not…

…we should be afraid of. The greater danger to society may be if you don't go see this movie. This movie is not about Trump. It's about the America that gave us Trump. The America which feels no need to help the outcast and the destitute. End of quote.…

…society may be if you don't go see this movie. This movie is not about Trump. It's about the America that gave us Trump. The America which feels no need to help the outcast and the destitute. End of quote. Consequently, again, quote, the fear and outcry…

…to lose. Nothing can hurt me anymore. My life is nothing but comedy. End of quote. So this is where I think the idea that Trump is a kind of joker in power finds its limit. Trump definitely did not go through this zero point. Trump may be an obscene…

…but comedy. End of quote. So this is where I think the idea that Trump is a kind of joker in power finds its limit. Trump definitely did not go through this zero point. Trump may be an obscene clown in his own way, but he is not a joker figure.…

…I think the idea that Trump is a kind of joker in power finds its limit. Trump definitely did not go through this zero point. Trump may be an obscene clown in his own way, but he is not a joker figure. It's an insult to joker to compare him with…

…Trump may be an obscene clown in his own way, but he is not a joker figure. It's an insult to joker to compare him with Trump, I claim, not the other way around. In the film, if you need a joker in the mode of Trump, it's Wayne the Father, who is…

…to compare him with Trump, I claim, not the other way around. In the film, if you need a joker in the mode of Trump, it's Wayne the Father, who is this typical capitalist, extremely brutal, but at the same time, of course, involved in charities and so…

…will make another point. My friendly disagreement with Judith Butler. Did you read her text published a couple of weeks ago on Donald Trump? I think here it was published in London Review of Books. Her point is this one, if I got it correctly. Insofar…

…negativity. defends against the attempts to impeach him as manifestations of death drive. Because that's her thesis. That what Trump is doing now, this paradoxical vicious cycle, he defends himself against impeachment, but the very way he defends himself,…

…way he defends himself, the vulgarity of it, open lies, contradictions, provides arguments for impeachment. My point is, yes, while Trump rejects the accusations that should lead to his impeachment, he simultaneously confirms the very crimes he is accused of…

…The fact that the very agency that regulates the application of the law has to exempt itself from the reign of the law. So yes, Trump is obscene in acting the way he does. But in this way, he only brings out the obscenity that is the obverse of the…

…to, of course, his perception of his ambitions, his well-being, what he sees as good for America, and so on. So, again, Trump, I think, is not, is far from, let's call it naively, authentic death drive enacted by Joker. There is absolutely nothing…

…well with Chinese authorities and so on and so on. Only later, they They made this slight move into, you know, all the stupidity, Trump save us, singing God save the Queen and so on and so on. But there is also a social dimension even there. Don't…

…these mid-level Democrats. He wants to get at those disappointed lower middle class people who otherwise would have voted for Trump. He targets exactly those. That's why it's so important. I almost cried when the squad... Alexandria, Octavio Cortez, and so…

…The last thing, if I'm allowed, then you can cut me short. That's why, not that I have my God, he's a subhuman entity, Trump. But I... I'm not so at ease as it may appear with this impeachment attempt, not because Trump is beneath contempt. My point…

…a subhuman entity, Trump. But I... I'm not so at ease as it may appear with this impeachment attempt, not because Trump is beneath contempt. My point is this one. What if we learned anything from great whistleblowers like Penning, Assange, Snowden? Yeah,…

…to discern The unfreedom embodied in how our state apparatuses function. That's why I don't like this easy story, oh, corrupted Trump. No, the problem, ultimately the problem is not corrupted Trump. Again, my problem with just focusing on Trump is double.…

…function. That's why I don't like this easy story, oh, corrupted Trump. No, the problem, ultimately the problem is not corrupted Trump. Again, my problem with just focusing on Trump is double. First, it's not him, it's the system. And point two, you…

…story, oh, corrupted Trump. No, the problem, ultimately the problem is not corrupted Trump. Again, my problem with just focusing on Trump is double. First, it's not him, it's the system. And point two, you know, I never trusted that liberal mocking Trump,…

…focusing on Trump is double. First, it's not him, it's the system. And point two, you know, I never trusted that liberal mocking Trump, jerk, idiot, and so on. The big question is, what was... wrong with our liberal societies that it gave birth to horror…

…and so on. The big question is, what was... wrong with our liberal societies that it gave birth to horror like Trump. Trump didn't fall from the moon. Trump exploited certain inconsistencies, antagonisms, which are already here, which are inherent to the…

…on. The big question is, what was... wrong with our liberal societies that it gave birth to horror like Trump. Trump didn't fall from the moon. Trump exploited certain inconsistencies, antagonisms, which are already here, which are inherent to the predominant…

…was... wrong with our liberal societies that it gave birth to horror like Trump. Trump didn't fall from the moon. Trump exploited certain inconsistencies, antagonisms, which are already here, which are inherent to the predominant liberal vision. So my point…

…antagonisms, which are already here, which are inherent to the predominant liberal vision. So my point is to really get rid of Trump, We on the side of freedom, dignity, human rights have to move a little bit further to the left. That's what Bernie…

…claim. Let's not move too much to the left. We must occupy the center. But my main argument against this is Trump himself. Trump won precisely by pushing things to the extreme on his side. Even the Republican establishment thought Trump is unelectable.…

…not move too much to the left. We must occupy the center. But my main argument against this is Trump himself. Trump won precisely by pushing things to the extreme on his side. Even the Republican establishment thought Trump is unelectable. You remember,…

…is Trump himself. Trump won precisely by pushing things to the extreme on his side. Even the Republican establishment thought Trump is unelectable. You remember, almost all the great established name of Republican Party said Bush older, Bush younger, and so…

…the beginning. And that's Sanders again. Yes. But at the same time, I would also say that, you know, One should really study Trump to learn how all these vulgarities and so on. These are parts of his working class appeal. This is how he establishes…

…only fun of Trump's vulgarities, because he's not vulgar all the way through. For example, when he, and this is for me, Trump, at his most disgusting, doesn't he usually at his shows, when he speaks to his partisan followers, embrace the American flag and…

…one elections and so on. I think the way things are appearing now, if he will not be destroyed by this impeachment, then... Trump may well get re-elected. And the nightmare is this one. Let's say Trump is impeached. Whom do we get then? Your vice…

…if he will not be destroyed by this impeachment, then... Trump may well get re-elected. And the nightmare is this one. Let's say Trump is impeached. Whom do we get then? Your vice president. Which is, I'm almost more afraid of him, if you ask me. He…

…but if I may conclude with another provocation, that's also where I would shift the accent. What disturbs me, although, again, Trump is a disgusting entity, but I don't like this focus on impeach Trump. The problem today, if we learned something through…

…shift the accent. What disturbs me, although, again, Trump is a disgusting entity, but I don't like this focus on impeach Trump. The problem today, if we learned something through Snowden, Wikileaks, and so on, is that the problem is not individuals who…

…you may have sincere patriots and so on. But still, horrors will happen. You know? I don't like this false You see Trump is a corrupted guy. No, it's false. The evil, evil alienation, domination is inscribed into the very functioning of our institutions.…