…this, our liberal society, gave birth to Gilead? Or, to apply this to your predicament, that's my problem with just criticizing Donald Trump. Yes, he is a nightmare, and so on. But... How come that he succeeded in disturbing the liberal consensus? To get…

…a nightmare, and so on. But... How come that he succeeded in disturbing the liberal consensus? To get really rid of Trump, ask this question. What was wrong with our liberal consensus? That's why, again, I think that stories like Handmaid's Tale, they're…

…from outside introduces antagonism into our society. I think that there is something similar that I see in liberal critics of Donald Trump. He is their fetish. The last thing they see before they would have to admit social antagonisms in the United States…

…Trump. He is their fetish. The last thing they see before they would have to admit social antagonisms in the United States and how Trump exploited them. Let me go on now to my main line, which is what does this mean for sexual difference or rather what…

…how we obfuscate the true dimension of our ecological crisis. First, it's simple ignorance. That's more or less the Donald Trump attitude. It's a marginal phenomenon. Nature will take care of itself. Don't worry. The second option is, of course, ideological…

…old Marxist terms, critique of ideology. Not only with our enemies. It's ridiculously evident that, for example, in what sense what Donald Trump and his guys are doing is ideology. But I think a true leftist should also do the opposite today. To ask when…

…are doing is ideology. But I think a true leftist should also do the opposite today. To ask when even... liberal democratic critics of Trump are too limited to fall into the same trap. So to conclude, let me just give you one example. I mean, Trump is…

…critics of Trump are too limited to fall into the same trap. So to conclude, let me just give you one example. I mean, Trump is for me, let's avoid a misunderstanding, like a guy without a moral compass, kind of an immature guy, not necessary to lose…

…guy, not necessary to lose words on that. But you know what? What disturbs me deeply in the way This impeachment of Trump is now gaining momentum. It's easy to criticize Trump. He should be criticized because we are obviously dealing with a single…

…know what? What disturbs me deeply in the way This impeachment of Trump is now gaining momentum. It's easy to criticize Trump. He should be criticized because we are obviously dealing with a single corrupted individual pursuing his own interests. And Edward…

…pursuing his own interests. And Edward Snowden, whom I greatly appreciate, pointed this out. He said it's easy to criticize Trump representatives of evil where you find clear motivations. This is an egotist, crazy guy, blah, blah, blah. What I find…

…that's where true ideology begins. For me, let me tell you something horrible. Although, the guy who published that book against Trump, the ex-FBI boss, James Comey, I think. higher loyalty, you know. Probably he's personally honest, I don't know. I'm just…

…yes, I will protest, always sign protests for those in Hong Kong. Although, of course, I was shocked when some of them then called Trump, save us from China, and so on. Wait a minute, be serious, and so on. No, what I'm just saying is that it's not…

…Not another story. You know, publishers are telling me I hated them years ago. Why don't you write a book on Donald Trump and so on? We need psychoanalysis to understand this madman. No, my answer was... It's pretty transparent what he's doing. We only…

…to be this, you know, morally upright, no postmodern and so on and so on. And my point was, sorry, but... But Trump is, for me, the postmodern caricature of an obscene president. Trump is not moral majority. If anything, Bernie Sanders is a figure…

…so on and so on. And my point was, sorry, but... But Trump is, for me, the postmodern caricature of an obscene president. Trump is not moral majority. If anything, Bernie Sanders is a figure of traditional decency and so on. So it may look... I often…

…slight contradiction with what I just said, but I would be tempted to say that with all this open obscenity practiced now by Trump and his guys, maybe the left should adopt a much more moralistic role. The function of the left to ordinary people should…

…of the left to ordinary people should be, listen, we understand you good Christians caring for ordinary decency. We are the guys. Trump is is the obscene guy. Trump is the true post-modern master who makes fun of himself and all that stuff, all that…

…should be, listen, we understand you good Christians caring for ordinary decency. We are the guys. Trump is is the obscene guy. Trump is the true post-modern master who makes fun of himself and all that stuff, all that stuff. And it's not only here…

…is the true post-modern master who makes fun of himself and all that stuff, all that stuff. And it's not only here with Trump. Boris Johnson is playing the same game all around Europe, even Christians. No, you probably don't know it. I follow where These…

…rules of indecency changed in Europe, and I was shocked. The most tasteless example, it would have been maybe even too much for Trump, I found in Poland. The boss of Poland is now Kaczynski. He's not formally the boss, but he leads the ruling party,…

…Like, no, we are not those elite guys and so on. I'm like you. I'm like you. On the other hand... I think that Trump plays here a double game. Yes, he tells dirty jokes, makes fun, but when he says, I love America and all that stuff, patriotic…

…when he says, I love America and all that stuff, patriotic stuff, he's very serious. You know, it's strictly clear... opposition in Trump when he is meant to be consciously obscene, funny. And incidentally, his great friend Putin is doing the same. I once…

…outbursts are the best planned, planned in detail outbursts of Putin. But I think the way maybe that would have worked against Trump is to turn it around and to take seriously his obscenities, but to mock as ridiculous his serious... His sincerity, yeah,…

…turn it around and to take seriously his obscenities, but to mock as ridiculous his serious... His sincerity, yeah, yes. The true joke of Trump is make America great again. It's not when he does this, grab by the pussy and so on and so on stuff, you…

…So, like, incidentally, but I don't want to go into it. Like, I know people who know people who know Joe Biden. They said, okay, Trump is disgusting, but Biden's son is corrupt. Yes, yes, yes. So let's go on. I mean, what if I got a job for 50 grand…

…particular Bernie Sanders as he tries now a second time? I think this is my old dogma. People thought that I'm crazy, I support Trump. I'm not crazy. Trump is a moral disgrace. I mean, Trump is a But you said that the election of Trump was the only…

…as he tries now a second time? I think this is my old dogma. People thought that I'm crazy, I support Trump. I'm not crazy. Trump is a moral disgrace. I mean, Trump is a But you said that the election of Trump was the only thing that could open up…

…think this is my old dogma. People thought that I'm crazy, I support Trump. I'm not crazy. Trump is a moral disgrace. I mean, Trump is a But you said that the election of Trump was the only thing that could open up the actual ideological crisis. And…

…I support Trump. I'm not crazy. Trump is a moral disgrace. I mean, Trump is a But you said that the election of Trump was the only thing that could open up the actual ideological crisis. And it did, because of democratic socialism. Without Trump, this…

…of Trump was the only thing that could open up the actual ideological crisis. And it did, because of democratic socialism. Without Trump, this wouldn't have happened, I claim. The reaction to Trump, so the only political battle, the way I see it, now in…

…the actual ideological crisis. And it did, because of democratic socialism. Without Trump, this wouldn't have happened, I claim. The reaction to Trump, so the only political battle, the way I see it, now in the United States, is the one going on within…

…into existence. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, we don't, okay, okay. No, what I want to say is this, that what Trump did is he disturbed this hegemonic peace. Till Trump, Republican Democratic Party, there were tensions and so on. Of course, Democrats were…

…we don't, okay, okay. No, what I want to say is this, that what Trump did is he disturbed this hegemonic peace. Till Trump, Republican Democratic Party, there were tensions and so on. Of course, Democrats were not the same as Dick Cheney and so on. But…

…and that's always how politics works. It's not only just explicit rules. It's these customs, unspoken rules, how you do things. And Trump disturbed this peace. You have now here some kind of a... ideological civil war. And why should the left use this…

…if you read my last piece published just digitally on this, where I go and some people again accuse me, you defend Trump. No, I'm not. No, sorry, just very briefly. You know, Even this now impeachment process against Trump, I'm skeptical about it. Not…

…again accuse me, you defend Trump. No, I'm not. No, sorry, just very briefly. You know, Even this now impeachment process against Trump, I'm skeptical about it. Not only you know, Trump talks a lot, but he didn't attack North Korea. He didn't attack Iran…

…No, sorry, just very briefly. You know, Even this now impeachment process against Trump, I'm skeptical about it. Not only you know, Trump talks a lot, but he didn't attack North Korea. He didn't attack Iran or Syria. He's much more cautious here. This is…

…tell you another thing here. Shh. For me, this is a clear example of how ideology works. It's easy to attack Trump because he's obviously personally, if not corrupted, then immoral, opportunistic, whatever guy. But it would be much more interesting and the…

…of human rights, blah, blah, which are part of the anonymous functioning of the state apparatus. You don't need an evil guy like Trump to see what NSA is doing in combination with Facebook, with Google, and so on and so on. That's why now in a…

…Facebook, with Google, and so on and so on. That's why now in a text that appeared only digitally, I said I contrasted Trump with his great enemy who probably personally is... More or less, although I doubt honest, James Comey in higher loyalty. I'm much…

…sincere fanatics and think they are doing the patriotic duty and so on and so on. That's the problem I have with impeaching Trump. Of course, he should be not impeached. He should be arrested. But kill him. I don't care. Yes. What I'm just saying is…

…is this one. I'm suspicious about this, I call it, John Oliver, John Stewart, leftist reaction, even Alec Baldwin, let's make endlessly fun of Trump. Yes, you did this and at the end he will be re-elected and so on and so on. I mean, but maybe I'm…

…and at the end he will be re-elected and so on and so on. I mean, but maybe I'm wrong here. My old dogma about Trump was, was that, okay, back to Bernie Sanders, that Bernie Sanders was the only hope. Why? Believe me or not, I have some connections…

…I met some people around Bernie. Why do I confuse the two of them? And they told me this. We have the squad. And Trump tried to focus his criticism on the squad. Alexandria, Octavio Cortez, and so on. But the strength of the Democratic Party would be…

…Sanders, who stands for old white men. Sanders voters, I was told, in Vermont, are people who otherwise would have voted for Trump, maybe even. This ordinary impoverished farmers and so on and so on. This combination we should strive at. This was the…

…changed. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know enough. Speaking of how the election shook out, you said, I'm absolutely still right to choose Trump over Hillary because of the reasons you... But only because of this. No, no, no. His time is over. I will write a…

…But only because of this. No, no, no. His time is over. I will write a new text. Now the left is revitalized. Now Trump did his duty. The criticism of that is that if you look at everything... He's done, you know, like a family separation on the…

…take it. Now is the time where we like, you know, moderate conservatives. We need like a broad, popular anti-fascist front against Trump because, you know, in the example of like Germany in the 30s, the Communist Party were like, great, Hitler's in power.…

…not in the sense of material, rich in the sense of the rich complex texture of civil society and so on. So whatever Trump is, it's not simply a new fascist dictatorship. While for Europe, I worry much more. I would never have been for Boris Johnson…

…health care and so on. But maybe I'm here a little bit too much of an idealist, Leninist leftist. What I saw in Trump is just someone who can trigger a revival of a slightly more radical left. It's not really radical. I found this ridiculous. Bernie…

…Because he said he will vote for Hillary, no? Oh, great. What a good guy. But don't you feel that this did happen with Trump? Like, all of a sudden, before you had Republicans, Democrats, which are more or less, not quite, but more or less like, you…

…work. They work. And now I will give you another reason for this. Everybody knows this, that Reagan was doing this. Trump is now doing this. Trump is the wild Keynesian. Trump's politics, economic, insofar as it works, it's absolutely not this neoliberalist…

…will give you another reason for this. Everybody knows this, that Reagan was doing this. Trump is now doing this. Trump is the wild Keynesian. Trump's politics, economic, insofar as it works, it's absolutely not this neoliberalist austerity. It is austerity…

…like crazy. You're... Do you remember when Clinton was in power, the right wing was worried, oh, Democrats just print money. Now Trump is doing this to an extent unimaginable before. The left should learn this lesson and be less afraid of spending money.…

…do we have something like clock? It's not an hour. Okay, let's go a little bit more. I'm in a generous mood. I feel like Trump after he grabbed some nice cookies. I'm in a generous mood. If you dare to use... No cuts. No edits. No cuts. Okay, sure.…

…know how I would talk? Why didn't any Democrat do this? I would like to tell... Why doesn't a Democrat in public debate Tell Trump now, we Democrats know how to grab your pussy, and then hopefully Trump will answer, sorry, I'm a man, I don't have a…

…would like to tell... Why doesn't a Democrat in public debate Tell Trump now, we Democrats know how to grab your pussy, and then hopefully Trump will answer, sorry, I'm a man, I don't have a pussy, and the answer is we know you are not a man. You are…

…are one big pussy, you know. Democrats should learn this. I know we should be polite, but don't you think with guys like Trump, selected insults they should embarrass him my theory has been that they should that the leaders of the party should come out…

…thinking of him wearing a diaper and of course but you know the irony in my hit call of a country Slovenia it's not that Trump is popular but Melania is Oh, yeah. One of us. Yeah. And I quite like this. Osama left this capitalist spirit. It's a small…

…You have a whole set of merchandise. She's a great success story. Yeah, although I like this ironic argument, but it doesn't work. Trump is too upset to hit him in this way that... New anti-immigration rules of Trump. Well, the first thing he should have…

…I like this ironic argument, but it doesn't work. Trump is too upset to hit him in this way that... New anti-immigration rules of Trump. Well, the first thing he should have done if he were to follow his rules is to send Melania back, you know. Sorry.…

…that most of the voters in the Democratic primary, they tell pollsters that the most important thing is that they can beat Trump. The most important thing is that they are electable. And to them, electability means that this candidate, usually Joe Biden is…

…this candidate, usually Joe Biden is considered the most electable, that this candidate will appeal to an imaginary voter who voted for Trump, you know, someone who will be acceptable. And this is something that we think about a lot and are kind of…

…part of the establishment and so on and so on. But the biggest argument for me against this reasoning of electable It's Trump himself. Almost to the end, he was considered ineluctable. Too extreme. The Clintons tried to manipulate it so that he'd be the…

…my husband, doesn't have a good health problem, but he's the most electable. She openly stated, no, this will not work. Trump nonetheless introduced a new logic of political engagement, mobilization. I don't believe that this is enough to beat him. You need…

…that this is enough to beat him. You need a more inspiring, positive project. But the problem, though, is that although Trump did create a new political reality, he overturned all the old understandings, but the media has basically spent the last three…

…stuff. And so that's why, again, I'm allergic to that John Oliver. Of course, you can make fun as much as you want for Trump, but maybe this even just... Strengthen solidarity with him and so on and so on. That's why I quoted him. Bernie Sanders said…

…That's why I quoted him. Bernie Sanders said something quite simple and nice a month ago already. He said, I'm tired of this Trump impeach, Trump impeach. What about social solidarity? What about health care and so on and so on? Don't get focused on the…

…quoted him. Bernie Sanders said something quite simple and nice a month ago already. He said, I'm tired of this Trump impeach, Trump impeach. What about social solidarity? What about health care and so on and so on? Don't get focused on the person.…

…Don't get focused on the person. Bernie, in a very wise way, I noticed... He even said with some particular points when Trump wanted to protect some industries, maybe we should even support Trump here. He didn't mean it totally. But, you know, like just…

…I noticed... He even said with some particular points when Trump wanted to protect some industries, maybe we should even support Trump here. He didn't mean it totally. But, you know, like just to shift from this personal issue, to personalize on Trump,…

…should even support Trump here. He didn't mean it totally. But, you know, like just to shift from this personal issue, to personalize on Trump, even if you just criticize him as a disgusting person, is to do him a favor in the long term, I think. Here…

…right-wingers got half a million people. I totally agree with you. The mystery is that precisely those people Poor guys who vote for Trump. They almost vote for him more for aesthetic reasons, making America strong and so on. No, no, I agree with you. We…

…probably very risky. I know that many so-called leftists, I don't consider them true leftists, are disturbed by what I wrote about Donald Trump, as if I have even a minimal sympathy for him, or some of my critical remarks on LGBT+, and so on, which…

…what we need today in our political moment. We don't need geniuses. There are enough of geniuses. Your president, beloved, Donald Trump, he regularly designates himself as a stable genius, I think, you know. We need what Kierkegaard called the opposition to…

…that type of a situation. So, let me now finally approach my proper topic. So, where are we today? What is the meaning of Trump phenomenon. Let me do it slowly, systematically. Not such a long time ago, in a galaxy that now appears far, far away, of…

…the disappearance of authority, of master figures, but its forceful reappearance. We are getting something unimaginable decades ago. Donald Trump is the emblematic figure of this new type of obscene populist master. And the usual argumentation against him, that…

…a fake, that his actual politics protects the interest of the rich is, I think, all too short. The followers of Trump do not act irrationally. They are not victims of primitive ideological manipulations which make them vote against their interests. They are…

…manipulations which make them vote against their interests. They are quite rational in their own terms. They vote for Trump because in the patriotic vision he is selling around, he also addresses their ordinary everyday problems. Safety, permanent job,…

…vision he is selling around, he also addresses their ordinary everyday problems. Safety, permanent job, and so on and so on. When Trump was elected president, I was asked by a couple of publishers to write a book which would submit the Trump phenomenon to…

…When Trump was elected president, I was asked by a couple of publishers to write a book which would submit the Trump phenomenon to psychoanalytic critics. claiming that this is something so crazy that is happening, we need psychoanalysis. How could people…

…to psychoanalytic critics. claiming that this is something so crazy that is happening, we need psychoanalysis. How could people buy Trump? My answer was that we do not need psychoanalysis to explore the pathology of Trump's success. The only thing to…

…is the irrational stupidity of the left liberal reactions to it. The stupidity which makes it more and more probable that Trump will be re-elected. To use what is perhaps the lowest point of Trump's vulgarities, the left has not yet learned how…

…be re-elected. To use what is perhaps the lowest point of Trump's vulgarities, the left has not yet learned how to grab Trump by his Trump is not winning because just by shamelessly bombarding us with messages which generate obscene enjoyment at how he…

…use what is perhaps the lowest point of Trump's vulgarities, the left has not yet learned how to grab Trump by his Trump is not winning because just by shamelessly bombarding us with messages which generate obscene enjoyment at how he dares to violate the…

…which generate obscene enjoyment at how he dares to violate the elementary norms of decency. Of course, that's the basic operation of Trump. We are shocked all the time. How does he do this? He violates all the unwritten rules of decency. But through all…

…as you, we are all red under our skin, and this solidarity also signals the point at which Trump's obscenity reaches its limit. Trump is not truly obscene. When he talks about the greatness of America, as enemies of the people and so on. He intends to…

…possible, or at least couple of days ago, check it up, please, in National Review, Ralph Peters, again, claimed to understand Trump was going to Hegel, that Trump practices Hegelian politics of recognition. His message to ordinary people is, in contrast to…

…ago, check it up, please, in National Review, Ralph Peters, again, claimed to understand Trump was going to Hegel, that Trump practices Hegelian politics of recognition. His message to ordinary people is, in contrast to liberal establishment, I recognize you.…

…His message to ordinary people is, in contrast to liberal establishment, I recognize you. This is why in order to undermine Trump, one should begin by displacing the side of his obscenity and treat as obscene precisely his serious statements. Trump is not…

…order to undermine Trump, one should begin by displacing the side of his obscenity and treat as obscene precisely his serious statements. Trump is not truly obscene when he uses When he talks about America as the greatest country in the world, when he…

…for you. My doubts, although I would like to see him deposed, of course, my doubts about the campaign for the impeachment of Trump. Okay, my first This talks a lot, but then, nonetheless, it looks so afraid to go to war, North Korea, Iran, and so…

…nonetheless, it looks so afraid to go to war, North Korea, Iran, and so on. Well, frankly, if you ask me, if you get rid of Trump, you get Mike Pence. And I have my doubts who would be worse. But my point is another one here. You see, here we have…

…but inscribed into the very functioning of institutions. That's why I find again a problematic the calls just to impeach Trump. Trump is undoubtedly a repelling person lacking a basic moral compass. However, what about the systematic violations of human…

…inscribed into the very functioning of institutions. That's why I find again a problematic the calls just to impeach Trump. Trump is undoubtedly a repelling person lacking a basic moral compass. However, what about the systematic violations of human rights in…

…the model of such patriotic bureaucrats is, as far as I can judge, James Comey. You remember, the FBI director deposed by Trump. Although at the level of fact, Comey was in his best higher loyalty. One should nonetheless admit that his higher loyalty to…

…that was revealed by Assange, Snowden, Kelsey Manning and so on. One should also not forget that the movement to impeach Trump is mostly motivated by the desire to prove that Russia influenced the last presidential elections, enabling Trump to win. While…

…movement to impeach Trump is mostly motivated by the desire to prove that Russia influenced the last presidential elections, enabling Trump to win. While there undoubtedly was Russian meddling. Incidentally, in the same way that the United States tried to…

…year, year and a half, going right into the heart of the election, all that the Congress is talking about is impeaching Trump and Trump, Trump, Trump, and Mueller, Mueller, Mueller, and we are not talking about health care. We are not talking about…

…and a half, going right into the heart of the election, all that the Congress is talking about is impeaching Trump and Trump, Trump, Trump, and Mueller, Mueller, Mueller, and we are not talking about health care. We are not talking about raising the…

…a half, going right into the heart of the election, all that the Congress is talking about is impeaching Trump and Trump, Trump, Trump, and Mueller, Mueller, Mueller, and we are not talking about health care. We are not talking about raising the minimum…

…going right into the heart of the election, all that the Congress is talking about is impeaching Trump and Trump, Trump, Trump, and Mueller, Mueller, Mueller, and we are not talking about health care. We are not talking about raising the minimum wage.…

…him to find some Prognathic points to that. He can read of it. But you see, it's the same problem as now with Trump. The movie locates the evil into, in a typical liberal way, into an individual person who pursues his dirty private sexual interests or…

…they saw as their duty, control anti-socialist forces, all the oppression which has stayed With all the absolute disgust I feel for Trump, don't make this mistake of locating the evil into private person, the true pro into private person with vices and so…

…lives matter. I totally, precisely, as a Hegelian universalist, I totally reject the stupid white liberal counterpoint made, among others, by Trump himself. No, why only black lives matter? All lives should It's a lie, because we are dealing here with what…

…us, we should precisely also aim to get the votes of those disappointed, poorer white people who would have otherwise voted for Trump or whoever there. That's the winning coalition today. Don't sacrifice any of the two sides. If you do sacrifice old white…

…men, not in the racism, trade and so on, then you will get with all your political correctness and so on, you will get Trump re-elected again and again. Again, I want to get not just rid of Trump. My message, and this is what caused so many…

…your political correctness and so on, you will get Trump re-elected again and again. Again, I want to get not just rid of Trump. My message, and this is what caused so many misunderstandings, is that We lived till 10 years ago, maybe even less, in…

…liberal hegemony. We had right-wing version, left-wing version, Republicans, Democrats, but basically it was a very homogeneous space. Then Trump happened. How could this have happened? What was wrong with the white liberal hegemony? The only way to really…

…space. Then Trump happened. How could this have happened? What was wrong with the white liberal hegemony? The only way to really defeat Trump is to ask the on Trump, you get caught into liberal nostalgia for the good old Princey times and so on and so…

…could this have happened? What was wrong with the white liberal hegemony? The only way to really defeat Trump is to ask the on Trump, you get caught into liberal nostalgia for the good old Princey times and so on and so on. Just to conclude with my…

…the novel. But how comes that out of this liberal paradise, Republic of Gilead exploded? Or for us, how comes that Trump exploded? We should be critical towards ourselves, otherwise Trump will get re-elected. So my paradox is that it's not what democratic…

…liberal paradise, Republic of Gilead exploded? Or for us, how comes that Trump exploded? We should be critical towards ourselves, otherwise Trump will get re-elected. So my paradox is that it's not what democratic establishment is telling us. The only way to…

…Trump will get re-elected. So my paradox is that it's not what democratic establishment is telling us. The only way to win Trump is to be more moderate, to get centrist votes. No, this was what Hillary tried, Clinton, and she lost. The paradox is…

…centrist votes. No, this was what Hillary tried, Clinton, and she lost. The paradox is that the only way to really win over Trump is to get the votes of all those, metaphorically called, old white men, poor guys who feel dispossessed and so on, and we…

…Venezuela or whatever you want and so on and so on. afraid of it. And that's what all I mean with that unfortunate statement, Trump can be put to good use and so on. Trump did something. It was horrible, I admit. But something that we should not be…

…afraid of it. And that's what all I mean with that unfortunate statement, Trump can be put to good use and so on. Trump did something. It was horrible, I admit. But something that we should not be afraid to use. He seriously disturbed the hegemonic a…

…Greta Thunberg like Snowden and so on, they stand for a new universal ethics where it's no longer The point of ethics where Trump and Putin agree, the patriotic ethics. It shocked me how Putin in a recent interview for BBC, he said betraying your country…

…your particular precisely grounded in patriotism. We have to move beyond this into new universalism. Otherwise, I can well understand why Trump and Kim, the North Korean Kim, are close friends now, so I read. They are both still... What's so charming, in…

…help, and so on, and so on. It's all... And this... spontaneous ethics where there is no place for leaders, then you get leaders like Trump who are the return of the repressed and so on and so on. So I don't have a simple answer how to do it, but…

…So, you know, nobody is clean. We should criticize feminism. We should criticize primitive, it also exists something called primitive, Trump is mobilizing it, primitive white lower class politics. Trump's image is precisely rich liberal elite to screw up your…

…the true moral majority today. And if you ask me, you know that the right-wingers are the true, as it's obvious now, with Trump, with Boris Johnson. Isn't the big shock that again and again, You think they reached the limit, how low they can go. Like…

…Cox or whatever, the best tribute to her would be to do Brexit, which is an incredibly cruel thing. tasteless irony or what Trump is serially doing and so on. You know what is so depressing that here liberals made a mistake. You remember in Trump's…

…no longer, a lady argued for same-sex marriages. And then a conservative... nationalist, member of parliament, did something in the style of Trump or Boris Johnson. He said publicly, with of course an evil smile, is this woman a woman at all? We should…

…would otherwise vote for Hillary Clinton and so on and so on. He got people who otherwise would have voted for Trump. What do you think the significance of Lacanian psychoanalysis is at the moment? I don't believe in immediate practical efficiency, like…

…ecological, ideological way to deal with ecological threats. First one is the obvious one. You know, it's, the first one is Donald Trump. You deny it. It's not serious. We can ignore it. Nature will fix itself. Obviously, it doesn't work. You know what…

…society? liberal, permissive societies that fundamentalists are getting stronger and stronger. And this is the big misunderstanding. I'm not for Trump. I'm not crazy. But I find suspicious this obsession with Donald Trump. No, sorry. Do you think Trump will…

…stronger. And this is the big misunderstanding. I'm not for Trump. I'm not crazy. But I find suspicious this obsession with Donald Trump. No, sorry. Do you think Trump will win again? Well, I hope not, but I will say something very cynical. So obviously…

…misunderstanding. I'm not for Trump. I'm not crazy. But I find suspicious this obsession with Donald Trump. No, sorry. Do you think Trump will win again? Well, I hope not, but I will say something very cynical. So obviously the Democratic Party, not the…

…United States, don't you think, is this subtle radical conservative like John Bolton, growing criticism of him. They noticed something that Trump talks a lot, but even from a conservative standpoint. Did he attack Iran? No. Maybe he will. No. Did he attack…

…voters were just disgusted by it. But what I want to say is that the reason I said, ironically, of course, vote for Trump, you know, is that, and it happened up to a point, what I hoped for, is that Trump nonetheless... settled, disturbed the hegemonic…

…ironically, of course, vote for Trump, you know, is that, and it happened up to a point, what I hoped for, is that Trump nonetheless... settled, disturbed the hegemonic consensus and opened up the space for the left pole to do the same. My hypothesis is…

…no democratic socialism, Bernie Sanders and so on, Alexandria Octavio Cortez, it's part of the same process. That wouldn't have happened without Trump. My fear is that if the wrong Democrat wins, like Biden or who, it will be back to the old establishment.…

…to the old establishment. And that's the worst thing that can happen because it means somebody more John Bolton-like, you know. Trump, horrible as it may sound, I can... That's my lesson from... living under communism when I was young, things can always…

…from... living under communism when I was young, things can always get a little bit worse, even if they are really bad. Trump is not the worst. So Susan Sarandon, yes, she said something quite intelligent. She says, but are you aware that probably Hillary…

…traditionally Democrats are much more interventionists in the United States. So don't fall into this fascination, negative fascination by Trump as the ultimate evil. He is a nightmare. Like ethically, ethico-politically, vulgarity and so on and so on. But…

…or less everybody. More or less everybody. I was right. Wouldn't you agree? My point, and I made it very clear, without Trump, there wouldn't have been Bernie Sanders and democratic socialism. My calculation was a very brutal Leninist one. Trump is a great…

…it very clear, without Trump, there wouldn't have been Bernie Sanders and democratic socialism. My calculation was a very brutal Leninist one. Trump is a great risk, although if you ask me, I have friends who know people who know people, it may surprise…

…are too intellectual, money laundering, and dirty, promiscuous, and so on. So my suspicion is that this is why Left liberals hate Trump so much. I mean, I hate him. He's disgusting. He's crazy. He married a Slovene girl. Serious guy. But what I'm saying…

…hate him. He's disgusting. He's crazy. He married a Slovene girl. Serious guy. But what I'm saying is that it's as if Trump is the last thing they see before they see class struggle, social antagonism. And that's why Trump won. Because left liberals like…

…that it's as if Trump is the last thing they see before they see class struggle, social antagonism. And that's why Trump won. Because left liberals like to... Displace social antagonism with, you know, they love fight against racism, feminist struggle and…

…Because partly, as you say, all these other things are distracting from the fundamental struggles. So for that reason, in America, Trump or Hillary, you vote Trump. Short question. But not because of Trump himself, but because Trump, precisely because of the…

…all these other things are distracting from the fundamental struggles. So for that reason, in America, Trump or Hillary, you vote Trump. Short question. But not because of Trump himself, but because Trump, precisely because of the horror he is, gave a push…

…from the fundamental struggles. So for that reason, in America, Trump or Hillary, you vote Trump. Short question. But not because of Trump himself, but because Trump, precisely because of the horror he is, gave a push to the left. So in the UK today,…

…struggles. So for that reason, in America, Trump or Hillary, you vote Trump. Short question. But not because of Trump himself, but because Trump, precisely because of the horror he is, gave a push to the left. So in the UK today, Corbyn or Johnson? No,…

…Maybe I was wrong, but I think the United States are such a diverse country with so many different structures of power that Trump in power in the United States is different than Boris Johnson here or even more than Alternative for Germany in Germany or…

…than Boris Johnson here or even more than Alternative for Germany in Germany or especially Marine Le Pen in France. I think that Trump is worth, maybe I was wrong, it was not a transcendental decision, Trump is maybe worth the risk. Boris Johnson is not,…

…or especially Marine Le Pen in France. I think that Trump is worth, maybe I was wrong, it was not a transcendental decision, Trump is maybe worth the risk. Boris Johnson is not, Marine Le Pen is definitely not, and so on. But what worries me, aren't…

…the Democratic Party is doing now. trying to sabotage Bernie Sanders, all the dirty gangs. They're really doing everything possible to make Trump re-elected. If I were to be a Stalinist, I would have said Democratic Party is the main agent of Trump. Okay,…

…possible to make Trump re-elected. If I were to be a Stalinist, I would have said Democratic Party is the main agent of Trump. Okay, now is the chance to have your say. So we're going to raise the lights. We've got some microphones. Could we ask…

…the absolute fails is the final time and we don't get another chance to repeat it? You say we sit through eight years of Trump to get Sanders, but what if eight years of Trump is all we have? Very briefly, It's even worse than you imply. People who…

…another chance to repeat it? You say we sit through eight years of Trump to get Sanders, but what if eight years of Trump is all we have? Very briefly, It's even worse than you imply. People who follow vaguely my work notice that somewhere from less…

…today which would have been more penetrated by ideology than ecology. All possible forms of ideology are there. There is denial, Donald Trump. It's a pseudo problem. There is the capitalist solution. We will tax more within the market and so on. The worst…

…surprised that transgender movement is so immensely popular among people. great corporate figures of the United States. You remember when month before Trump was elected, I mean, this is I think one of the reasons why he won. The main topic of big left…

…every power structure. Every power structure needs some kind of a support in perversion, and maybe... What is happening now with Trump and so on is that simply this perverse underground is coming directly into the open. But the true undermining of authority…

…opponent, but I will not say maybe anything original if I say this. But, you know, it's the same as with Donald Trump. I'm deeply suspicious of this situation. Hatred, but at the same time, fascination with Donald Trump. You know, all left liberals say,…

…it's the same as with Donald Trump. I'm deeply suspicious of this situation. Hatred, but at the same time, fascination with Donald Trump. You know, all left liberals say, let's now forget about old hatreds. We have a fascist enemy there. In some sense,…

…mean by postmodernism... This historicist relativism no longer taking old values seriously, just cynically playing with it. Then Donald Trump is the ultimate postmodern president. It's an insult. I mean, compare as characters Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders.…

…playing with it. Then Donald Trump is the ultimate postmodern president. It's an insult. I mean, compare as characters Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders is an old-fashioned moralist and so on. Donald Trump is an obscene postmodern abomination…

…insult. I mean, compare as characters Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders is an old-fashioned moralist and so on. Donald Trump is an obscene postmodern abomination and so on and so on. Also, you know, Jordan Peterson, in some sense, I appreciate…

…I'm here, and back to your question. Another point, the situation, if anything today, I don't know how it is here with you. Trump talks a lot about it, but didn't do it a lot. The tragedy in Europe is that some populist right-wingers, where they are…

…of the left, which you can see in the United States when Bernie Sanders is now president. It's now depicted as crazy madman. Trump called him, I think, crazy Bernie and so on. But look at his concrete program. Measured by the standards of Europe half a…

…I always, when people wonder why I'm saying this, one example would be Now Avital will be mad again. Let's learn from Trump. You know what Trump is really doing? Mostly, he doesn't directly break the law, but in any civilized society, you have explicit…

…wonder why I'm saying this, one example would be Now Avital will be mad again. Let's learn from Trump. You know what Trump is really doing? Mostly, he doesn't directly break the law, but in any civilized society, you have explicit laws, but then you…

…that's the life in a community. There are complex unwritten rules, habits and so on about how to apply the law. And Trump does, breaks not the law, breaks these unwritten habits. He does something that you cannot say is directly against the law, but…

…What if the next democratic president will proclaim a state of emergency for global warming? Yes, exactly here we should learn from Trump. You know, he taught us how to not even break the rules, but violate the unwritten background. Okay, but let's go on.…

…never raises the question, which is for me the crucial question. But sorry, guys, new religious fundamentalism or alt-right or Donald Trump, but they did not fall from the sky. How could it happen that our, this beautiful, tolerant, liberal politics, I…

…they did not fall from the sky. How could it happen that our, this beautiful, tolerant, liberal politics, I think Donald Trump is the ultimate fetish. In what sense? Precisely in this almost naive Freudian sense where, you know, There is another question,…

…doesn't have a penis. Let's say before you notice a crack, an antagonism, and so on. And I claim in this precise sense, Trump is a liberal fetish. This absolute fascination by Trump exists because Donald Trump, the horror of Trump, is the last thing that…

…a crack, an antagonism, and so on. And I claim in this precise sense, Trump is a liberal fetish. This absolute fascination by Trump exists because Donald Trump, the horror of Trump, is the last thing that a liberal sees before he sees class struggle. And…

…and so on. And I claim in this precise sense, Trump is a liberal fetish. This absolute fascination by Trump exists because Donald Trump, the horror of Trump, is the last thing that a liberal sees before he sees class struggle. And that's why Trump won.…

…claim in this precise sense, Trump is a liberal fetish. This absolute fascination by Trump exists because Donald Trump, the horror of Trump, is the last thing that a liberal sees before he sees class struggle. And that's why Trump won. He mobilized for…

…Donald Trump, the horror of Trump, is the last thing that a liberal sees before he sees class struggle. And that's why Trump won. He mobilized for the right reasons. the class struggle dimension which precisely liberal left was ignoring. So if you give me…

…a brief, not really political, but generally political statement. You know why people ask me, why are you making all these crazy things, Trump and so on? My first My big problem is this one. It may sound conformist or whatever. I would like to see some…

…a refugee from El Salvador who wanted to enter the United States, still on the Mexican side, said to the TV cameras, please, Mr. Trump, let us in. We just want to be good, hard workers in your country. So I like this paradox. This is not proletarians…

…how to annoy you a little bit. I think the left, I think I already mentioned this here, that we should learn from Trump. Where? I admire Trump, I'm repeating myself, I know, how what he does is something ingenious. He doesn't directly, he also does, but…

…a little bit. I think the left, I think I already mentioned this here, that we should learn from Trump. Where? I admire Trump, I'm repeating myself, I know, how what he does is something ingenious. He doesn't directly, he also does, but his main strategy…

…This is meant for a big catastrophe. He misused it. I would say, fine, he set a precedent. And some right-wingers opposed Trump. They got it. They said, wait a minute. What if we get some left democratic president and he will do something reasonable?…

…something reasonable? He will say, wait a minute. Let's proclaim national emergency for global warming and so on. You know? Learn from Trump. Okay. Now, work, finally. I will come back to Trump here, because I will try precisely to develop in which sense…

…national emergency for global warming and so on. You know? Learn from Trump. Okay. Now, work, finally. I will come back to Trump here, because I will try precisely to develop in which sense this obsession with Trump is, in the strict Freudian sense...…

…Now, work, finally. I will come back to Trump here, because I will try precisely to develop in which sense this obsession with Trump is, in the strict Freudian sense... that Trump is our fetish. In what sense? A fetish of left liberals who don't want to…

…Trump here, because I will try precisely to develop in which sense this obsession with Trump is, in the strict Freudian sense... that Trump is our fetish. In what sense? A fetish of left liberals who don't want to go more to the end into socialism,…

…undress or the girl undresses herself, you see feet, hair, and so on, the last thing you see. I think, that's my reading, Trump is the last thing left liberal sees before he sees a class struggle. You know, you have this obsession, fascism, yeah, yeah,…

…dangerous threat. But you never ask the question, which is the question of the class struggle. How comes that? How comes that? Trump got so many workers' votes, and so on, and so on, because the liberals neglected, okay, I still call it class struggle,…

…of catastrophe? That now two weeks ago, when the American Congress wanted to stop American support for Saudi Arabia role in Yemen, Trump vetoed it. This is, are we aware what is happening now in Yemen? The whole nation is destroyed. Tens of thousands of…

…radical in a totally wrong way. I mean, I always tell them, before we almost begin to fight and shout, you elected Trump. With your stupidity, this politically correct madness was the key factor for the popularity of Trump among ordinary people. No? No,…

…fight and shout, you elected Trump. With your stupidity, this politically correct madness was the key factor for the popularity of Trump among ordinary people. No? No, it's so humiliating. What's the deal with the debate with Jordan Peterson? I think, I…

…get the chance, a guy to ask me, he said hysterics is the only appropriate response. Does he think that the election of Trump is an expression of hysterics? No, it's precisely, I think... The election of Trump, you know why? Let me begin by this.…

…Does he think that the election of Trump is an expression of hysterics? No, it's precisely, I think... The election of Trump, you know why? Let me begin by this. Hysteria is for me an authentic attitude because, not perversion, perversion is falsely…

…woman, mother, lover, whatever. Society is imposing on us certain social roles. Hysteria is questioning them. And I think, unfortunately, Trump is precisely a reaction to this. Trump wants to return to a pseudo-master's discourse. where there is a central…

…on us certain social roles. Hysteria is questioning them. And I think, unfortunately, Trump is precisely a reaction to this. Trump wants to return to a pseudo-master's discourse. where there is a central authority which gives you clear roles. That's also…

…interesting, but... You already have somebody covering that and so on and so on. It's absolutely... Do you think this is mostly your Trump... No, it's Trump. It's even... It did hurt me much. But I'm not for Trump. I know it's disgusting. My point is…

…already have somebody covering that and so on and so on. It's absolutely... Do you think this is mostly your Trump... No, it's Trump. It's even... It did hurt me much. But I'm not for Trump. I know it's disgusting. My point is just... And I'm totally…

…absolutely... Do you think this is mostly your Trump... No, it's Trump. It's even... It did hurt me much. But I'm not for Trump. I know it's disgusting. My point is just... And I'm totally right. Sorry, it was true. Because of Trump, now you have…

…But I'm not for Trump. I know it's disgusting. My point is just... And I'm totally right. Sorry, it was true. Because of Trump, now you have democratic socialism as an option. The world, it's a serious struggle between democratic party and so on and so…

…democratic socialism as an option. The world, it's a serious struggle between democratic party and so on and so on. But look, it's Trump and... No, what hurt them is that I always emphasize, you liberals who now mock Trump, you ask yourself how you are…

…on and so on. But look, it's Trump and... No, what hurt them is that I always emphasize, you liberals who now mock Trump, you ask yourself how you are responsible for that. They don't like to hear that. My remarks on transgenderism... All these white…

…even it was their mistake to visit North Korea. But I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. You know what the problem of Trump, if you ask me, if economy will do well and if he at the end succeeds with something like like North Korea or whatever…

…will do well and if he at the end succeeds with something like like North Korea or whatever piece, because remember, Trump is effectively less militaristic than Democrats, Clinton. I almost agree with Yusuf Sarandon, the ethos, who is very much to the…

…are as stupid as they are, now it's incredible, this absolute drive to self-destruction by the American Democrats. It's amazing that Trump and Kim, when they sit together, they look like real friends, like on the empathetic level. I know. I spoke with…

…an authentic act. For example, this caused me such trouble in the United States when media misrepresented my position as if I'm for Trump. I'm not crazy. The guy was so stupid to marry a Slovene woman. No, but seriously, Trump is a scandal. I just…

…my position as if I'm for Trump. I'm not crazy. The guy was so stupid to marry a Slovene woman. No, but seriously, Trump is a scandal. I just claimed that the key event of the elections was how brutally democratic party got rid of Bernie Sanders,…

…for me at least, strictly part of today's global capitalist dynamics. I think I was not shocked when With that, just before Trump was elected, when this was the big topic, transgender toilets, special toilets or not, that you look at the list of who…

…is doing miracles today. For example, in Europe, So I'm not involved in cheap America bashing. We Europeans, in spite of your Trump, are worse than you, I think. In Europe, you have now a new right-wing racist theory, which is incredible, which goes so…

…is that precisely you cannot personalize it into an enemy in this way. Look at your situation. Of course, the enemy is Trump. But a true leftist should never forget that Trump just filled in the gap of the failure, disintegration of the liberal democratic…

…an enemy in this way. Look at your situation. Of course, the enemy is Trump. But a true leftist should never forget that Trump just filled in the gap of the failure, disintegration of the liberal democratic hegemony. So if you want really in the long…

…the gap of the failure, disintegration of the liberal democratic hegemony. So if you want really in the long term to defeat Trump, We have to introduce at least some radical changes into the predominant left liberal consensus. That's what Trump got it. A…

…term to defeat Trump, We have to introduce at least some radical changes into the predominant left liberal consensus. That's what Trump got it. A further theoretical point here, I hope I'll be clear enough in formulating it, is that The further problem,…

…progressive politics in all these levels in concrete life experiences. If you ask me, the first result, even if now Trump recognizes... which I doubt, but nonetheless, the seriousness of ecological situation, I claim that the first reaction will be America…

…they are not really doing that. We are now, you should know this, in the middle of the new arms race. It's not only that Trump wants to step out of it. They are all for a decade already in it. But it's not so much nuclear arms. It's they're obsessed…

…biogenetics, digital media, that some kind of resistance will emerge. I am not totally a pessimist here. Now you will say, but Trump, and so on. Trump is for me... precisely a preemptive strike, a sign that things are changing, that change is possible.…

…that some kind of resistance will emerge. I am not totally a pessimist here. Now you will say, but Trump, and so on. Trump is for me... precisely a preemptive strike, a sign that things are changing, that change is possible. Now, I will not conclude…

…precisely a preemptive strike, a sign that things are changing, that change is possible. Now, I will not conclude with any praising of Trump. Be serious, he is a nightmare. But nonetheless, I will be open. One thing I almost admire in Trump, how he knows…

…with any praising of Trump. Be serious, he is a nightmare. But nonetheless, I will be open. One thing I almost admire in Trump, how he knows how to dare and break the rules. I had a talk in Switzerland yesterday, with an American diplomat, quite by…

…I had a talk in Switzerland yesterday, with an American diplomat, quite by chance, who was anti-Trump, and he told me what Trump knows to do. You know, in every political process, you have explicit rules. Laws, what Congress can do, this, that. But these…

…this, that. But these laws are only alive They only work with implicit rules, unwritten customs. You do this like this. Trump is a master in breaking these implicit customs. You see, like nominating Kavanaugh or whatever. Obama could have done it already,…

…Follow the law, but violate the implicit conformist rules of how you practice the law. And here we should absolutely learn from Trump. Be more daring. Risk it. In politics, you don't proceed. Here I like Lenin who mocked German social democrats. He wrote…

…if you are from here, I don't know, are in a dangerous moment. This split now between... let's say Bernie Sanders and Trump, is too strong to be contained in a simple electoral process. Why? Because ultimately there is no compromise here. One side has…

…is that it's still, to such an incredible extent, the target of all others. It's almost an obsession of Putin and Trump combined to ruin European Union. Whenever there is something that will weaken European Union, Putin is at it. Catalonia, Putin supported…

…how he threatened the... Many of my friends dismiss the Sheik criminal court as just another imperialist blah blah. Wait a minute. Trump and John Bolton, they hate it. John Bolton threatened again. We don't recognize it. We are ready to attack it if it…

…much, please. No, no, no, it's the same thing that I am thinking about the populism, because now some people think that Donald Trump in the United States is a very peronist to be President of the United States, because he is a populist too. think that…

…States is a very peronist to be President of the United States, because he is a populist too. think that this idea that Trump could be the first Peronist president in the United States is part of the narcissism of the Argentinians, or maybe it's possible…

…it may be much softer than Nazism, but a form of fascism. Okay, I would not lie because it simplifies the terms to call Trump a fascist. I will tell you why. It's not that he is better, but often today's leftists, don't you think, they see something…

…analyzing it, the easiest way to do it is to just apply the old terms. Oh, it's fascism. We should not focus on Trump, but we should focus on the failure of the United States political establishment, which opened up the space for Trump. I think that…

…not focus on Trump, but we should focus on the failure of the United States political establishment, which opened up the space for Trump. I think that the big event in the United States is the failure of what in old Marxist terms we called hegemonia…

…hegemonia ideologica, ideological hegemony. There was a gap there, mistrust of the people in the ruling political consensus and so on. And Trump filled in this space. How? Yes, maybe in a Peronist way. That is to say, combining left and right. That's why…

…flirting with Bernie Sanders, of incorporating some leftist demands which no social democrat today would dare to For example, Bannon's misunderstanding with Trump, you know, that he wanted to raise taxes, not to lower them to 45% and so on and so on. And…

…States that Many democratic voters were so shocked by this Hillary Clinton's way of doing that they did not, many of them, vote for Trump, but they abstained. They say it's too much for us. And I am... So what I am afraid is that to return to this…

…is that to return to this liberal left... establishment logic embodied by Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton is not enough to win over Trump. Now, I'm not advocating any kind of revolution. This is crazy. But I'm just saying this is why I never liked I'm…

…saying this is why I never liked I'm just saying it's not enough to plea for the return to the old establishment. Trump moved, changed the situation. The categories at the same time, but the idea that they use something from the left. Absolutely. You…

…Absolutely. You know, Steve Bannon, I saw an interview with Farid Zakaria on CNN, where he said, my idea is the coalition between Trump and Bernie Sanders. He directly said this. And my idea is that this is what we should learn. cannot simply return to…

…idea is that this is what we should learn. cannot simply return to the old establishment logic of categories, liberal left. Because Trump is precisely the proof that these categories don't work. So we are in a, although things may appear to go on okay,…

…to play coalition negotiations and so on and so on. And this is missing today. This consensus, like in America before Trump. Whoever won, they had so many basic presuppositions that the system functioned. If Democrats lost, they said, OK, let's wait four…

…basic presuppositions that the system functioned. If Democrats lost, they said, OK, let's wait four years or eight. I think Trump is something much more radical. It's not just the normal exchange within the consensus. This consensus itself is changing. And…

…and so on, and so on. Also, in his other proposals, you had this, and this is very actual today, incidentally, with Donald Trump. You know, we are entering a new age of political brutality. So this is one thing. Second thing is what I already said.…

…You know what is so... But this is the future for the world. One of the tendencies, that's what I'm afraid of. And here, Trump fits in. What makes me so sad is that, you know, I remember two years ago, three, when there was that tension between Turkey…

…and so on, this combination of authoritarian nationalism with capitalism. And this really is worse. And in a way isn't also Trump moving in this direction. That's the meaning of his formula America first. That's the new formula. America first, Russia first,…

…democracy. But what worries me is this strengthening of this more authoritarian type which, although incidentally, I am not afraid. Trump already is fascism in power. No, let's be serious. United States is a very complex country with so many independent…

…in power. No, let's be serious. United States is a very complex country with so many independent institutions and so on and so on. Trump in power in United States, it's not the same as, let's say, Marine Le Pen in power in France. France is much more…

…like crazy for the war. But in the case, to finish the case of authoritarianism, then in your theory, people vote authoritarianism, and Trump is part of this. Yes, here I'm a pessimist. I'm not an old communist who says, we the party, no. No, we don't…

…because this kind of monopoly is increasing. is for the media class. The media class is going down. The answer is Trump. Yes, absolutely agree. But finally we will need a third way between the authoritarian... And that's the tragedy. We see, you…

…on. In terms of economy and politics, the idea in Argentina is that Pope Francisco is also Peronist. It's like the idea like Trump, that we have one Peronist in the United States and one Peronist in the Vatican. Formally, Pope Francis is a Peronist. He…

…formula. We know very well what we are doing, but we are still doing it. You know? This is what is also so new about Trump. He practically admits he is lying, but he is still lying. We are accepting it, and so on, and so on. And this is... Again,…

…education and so on, we men are changing into permanent adolescents. And he pointed out very nicely how even somebody like Donald Trump, he doesn't behave as a a permanent adolescent. At the same time, and that's a very nice observation by you, women are…

…Arab Spring, as we know, Syriza, Podemos was a media phenomenon first in Spain. Well, you can say that at the beginning Trump also came from television because he did a show in television. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But even it's interesting to see how Internet…

…the Third World, but a privileged relation with the European Union, Europe. And I find maybe this is an option, namely what Trump and Putin share is destroy Europe. in the sense of European Union. And Putin, as you must know, it's here quite unprincipled.…

…China is now not imminently anti-European. And the Western? What is West today? That's the problem, you know, because with Trump everything is getting crazy, you know. Although again, people again underestimate the way Trump plays even a crazy leftist policy.…

…the problem, you know, because with Trump everything is getting crazy, you know. Although again, people again underestimate the way Trump plays even a crazy leftist policy. Like, do you know this tariff war against imports of aluminum, steel from Europe,…

…plays even a crazy leftist policy. Like, do you know this tariff war against imports of aluminum, steel from Europe, Canada? But Trump presented this as saving American working class and so on, you know. Don't underestimate this. It was not just a crazy…