…does he think I was Uspensky, or does he think I was Bennett? LAUGHTER You know what happened when Bennett returned to Gurdjieff after a 17-year absence. He said to Gurdjieff, do you remember me? Gurdjieff said, yes, you're a number 18 type idiot. That's…

…think I was Bennett? LAUGHTER You know what happened when Bennett returned to Gurdjieff after a 17-year absence. He said to Gurdjieff, do you remember me? Gurdjieff said, yes, you're a number 18 type idiot. That's an old Gurdjieff tradition, the toasting of…

…You know what happened when Bennett returned to Gurdjieff after a 17-year absence. He said to Gurdjieff, do you remember me? Gurdjieff said, yes, you're a number 18 type idiot. That's an old Gurdjieff tradition, the toasting of the idiots they do at…

…17-year absence. He said to Gurdjieff, do you remember me? Gurdjieff said, yes, you're a number 18 type idiot. That's an old Gurdjieff tradition, the toasting of the idiots they do at the closing of a Gurdjieff workshop. The way Gurdjieff used to do it,…

…yes, you're a number 18 type idiot. That's an old Gurdjieff tradition, the toasting of the idiots they do at the closing of a Gurdjieff workshop. The way Gurdjieff used to do it, everybody had to take a jigger of vodka at each toast, and they had to…

…18 type idiot. That's an old Gurdjieff tradition, the toasting of the idiots they do at the closing of a Gurdjieff workshop. The way Gurdjieff used to do it, everybody had to take a jigger of vodka at each toast, and they had to toast every type of…

…Chapman made it even crazier than Terry Southern's crazy novel. And I think it's the way they adopted it, it's actually about Gurdjieff. Peter Sellers is playing Gurdjieff and Ringo Starr is playing Ouspensky. And you can see that in a lot of scenes,…

…than Terry Southern's crazy novel. And I think it's the way they adopted it, it's actually about Gurdjieff. Peter Sellers is playing Gurdjieff and Ringo Starr is playing Ouspensky. And you can see that in a lot of scenes, especially every time Ringo Starr…

…you can see that in a lot of scenes, especially every time Ringo Starr says to, as Ouspensky says to Peter Sellers as Gurdjieff, what business are we in, Dad? That's the kind of question Ouspensky was always asking, you know. Okay, next question. Yes? I…

…Oh no that's that's. That's coct Wilson I'm Roy Wilson. You got to keep the two of us distinct. And it will be Gurdjieff at various stages of evolution. That's the earliest stage of Gurdjieff. There's another one later on which is Gurdjieff as a mammal,…

…got to keep the two of us distinct. And it will be Gurdjieff at various stages of evolution. That's the earliest stage of Gurdjieff. There's another one later on which is Gurdjieff as a mammal, and that's all bunch of sheep busy munching away and one…

…it will be Gurdjieff at various stages of evolution. That's the earliest stage of Gurdjieff. There's another one later on which is Gurdjieff as a mammal, and that's all bunch of sheep busy munching away and one sheep is standing up and saying wait wait…

…that's the whole purpose for work on consciousness. Maurice Nicole, who was a physician, a jungian therapist and a student of Gurdjieff said the only reason that consciousness research is so important is because we need to decrease the amount of violence in…

…or contempt and one has to spend to avoid becoming a total scoundrel. One has to spend a great deal of time in the Gurdjieff work in which you discover that you are an idiot too. And then you begin to acquire humility and then you realize that t…

…too. And then you begin to acquire humility and then you realize that t s Eliot was right: humility is endless. The Gurdjieff teaching is that the human race consists of two classes: subjectively hopeless idiots, which is the majority who have no suspicion…

…idiots, which is people like me who know we're idiots and are trying to do something about it. I was at a big Gurdjieff Festival a few years ago where they did the traditional toasting of the idiots which is an old Gurdjieff Tradition. Everybody has to…

…I was at a big Gurdjieff Festival a few years ago where they did the traditional toasting of the idiots which is an old Gurdjieff Tradition. Everybody has to take a shot of vodka and propose a toast and everybody has to drink their shot of vodka. And…

…language we've got and it's also very amusing to make people aware of their robothood. Most people are very resistant to that. Gurdjieff built his whole school of enlightenment on making them abruptly aware of it. When you do become aware of the extent to…

…on making them abruptly aware of it. When you do become aware of the extent to which you are robotic, you suffer what Gurdjieff called a conscious shock, in which you also become aware of the part of you that is not entirely robotic and unleashing that…

…lodge the order of the silver star, is now headed by Kenneth grant who says bluntly: the silver star is sirius. The Gurdjieff Schools are connected with sirius by Gurdjieff's Pupil j g Bennett in his book on Gurdjieff in which he quotes Gurdjieff as…

…silver star is sirius. The Gurdjieff Schools are connected with sirius by Gurdjieff's Pupil j g Bennett in his book on Gurdjieff in which he quotes Gurdjieff as saying that Gurdjieff's Principal prose work, beelzebub's tales to his grandson is full of coded…

…Gurdjieff Schools are connected with sirius by Gurdjieff's Pupil j g Bennett in his book on Gurdjieff in which he quotes Gurdjieff as saying that Gurdjieff's Principal prose work, beelzebub's tales to his grandson is full of coded references to sirius. Now…

…that Gurdjieff's Principal prose work, beelzebub's tales to his grandson is full of coded references to sirius. Now why Crowley and Gurdjieff, who seem to be in some sense the opposite poles of the occult continuum, would both be involved with sirius struck…

…see. They add things that nobody else saw. Most people don't even notice that they're in the hall themselves, which is what Gurdjieff calls self forgetting. They don't even know they're there they don't know where they are, and so you pick out from the…

…sense at all. So these 4 circuits make up the basis of what we would think of as normal human life. Yeah in the Gurdjieff System the 1st circuit is called the movement center, the 2nd circuit is the false emotional center, the 3rd circuit is the false…

…on Saturday, Saturn's day? That correlates with Jung's Concept of the collective unconscious or the true emotional center. According to Gurdjieff, this is accessed through very advanced yogas or years of practice of yoga, or through peyote or psilocybin or…

…they come from. Does this give us an even higher level of freedom than the fifth circuit? Well if it correlates with Gurdjieff the way I'm trying to make it correlate, yeah we have even higher freedom there and a worse sense of responsibility. It's…

…the eight circuits. At least if you're as ingenious as I am you can make it correlate, like I've made it correlate with the Gurdjieff System with a great deal of effort and strain but it does seem to work. As a matter of fact there are two Gurdjieff…

…System with a great deal of effort and strain but it does seem to work. As a matter of fact there are two Gurdjieff Schools that are using my books in their curriculum. So I'm not distorting Gurdjieff too much and making his system isomorphic to Leary's…

…As a matter of fact there are two Gurdjieff Schools that are using my books in their curriculum. So I'm not distorting Gurdjieff too much and making his system isomorphic to Leary's but do you personally feel or at least suspect that these are evolving…

…arrogance or contempt. One has to spend to avoid becoming a total scoundrel. One has to spend a great deal of time in the Gurdjieff work in which you discover that you are an idiot too. And then you begin to acquire humility and then you realize that…

…too. And then you begin to acquire humility and then you realize that t s Eliot was right: humility is endless. The Gurdjieff teaching is that the human race consists of two classes: objectively hopeless idiots, which is the majority who have no suspicion…

…idiots, which is people like me who know they're idiots and are trying to do something about it. I was at a big Gurdjieff Festival a few years ago where they did the traditional toasting of the idiots, which is an old Gurdjieff Tradition. Everybody has…

…I was at a big Gurdjieff Festival a few years ago where they did the traditional toasting of the idiots, which is an old Gurdjieff Tradition. Everybody has to take a shot of vodka and propose a toast everybody has to drink their shot of vodka and they…

…at all. So these four circuits make up the basis of what we would think of as normal human life. Yeah in the Gurdjieff System the first circuit is called the movement center the second circuit is the false emotional center the third circuit is the false…

…on Saturday, Saturn's day? That correlates with Jung's Concept of the collective unconscious, or the true emotional center. According to Gurdjieff, this is accessed through very advanced yogas or years of practice of yoga or through peyote or psilocybin or…

…they come from. Does this give us an even higher level of freedom than the fifth circuit? Well if it correlates with Gurdjieff the way I'm trying to make it correlate, yeah we have even higher freedom there and a worse sense of responsibility. It's…

So these four circuits make up the basis of what we would think of as normal human life. Yeah in the Gurdjieff System the first circuit is called the movement center the second circuit is the false emotional center the third circuit is the false rational…

…on Saturday, Saturn's day? That correlates with Jung's Concept of the collective unconscious or the true emotional center. According to Gurdjieff, this is accessed through very advanced yogas or years of practice of yoga, or through peyote or psilocybin or…

…they come from. Does this give us an even higher level of freedom than the fifth circuit? Well if it correlates with Gurdjieff the way I'm trying to make it correlate yeah we have even higher freedom there and a worse sense of responsibility. It's…

…the eight circuits at least if you're as ingenious as I am you can make it correlate, like I've made it correlate with the Gurdjieff System with a great deal of effort and strain but it does seem to work. As a matter of fact there are two Gurdjieff…

…System with a great deal of effort and strain but it does seem to work. As a matter of fact there are two Gurdjieff Schools that are using my books in their curriculum so I'm not distorting Gurdjieff too much and making his system isomorphic to Leary's.…

…As a matter of fact there are two Gurdjieff Schools that are using my books in their curriculum so I'm not distorting Gurdjieff too much and making his system isomorphic to Leary's. But do you personally feel or at least suspect that these are evolving…

…influenced by the first year stensky school it sounds like a lot of your terminology is really solid. Well I've been influenced by Gurdjieff. I was never in the Gurdjieff work. I read his books. I was fascinated by Gurdjieff. I learned a lot from people…

…school it sounds like a lot of your terminology is really solid. Well I've been influenced by Gurdjieff. I was never in the Gurdjieff work. I read his books. I was fascinated by Gurdjieff. I learned a lot from people who were in the Gurdjieff work…

…is really solid. Well I've been influenced by Gurdjieff. I was never in the Gurdjieff work. I read his books. I was fascinated by Gurdjieff. I learned a lot from people who were in the Gurdjieff work including my wife who was in it for several years. E…

…never in the Gurdjieff work. I read his books. I was fascinated by Gurdjieff. I learned a lot from people who were in the Gurdjieff work including my wife who was in it for several years. E j gold, who writes gurdjieffian books under the name Mr G. E…

…People who never realize that they're schmucks are the people who remain schmucks forever. That's very similar to Gurdjieff as you'll recognize. It's very similar to Gurdjieff's Distinction between the objectively hopeless idiot and the subjectively hopeless…

…graduated to being an objectively hopeless idiot. I was on a Sufi Science fiction convention with e j gold and a lot of other Gurdjieff people and they did the toasting of the idiots the way Gurdjieff used to do it. Everybody got a bottle of vodka and…

…Sufi Science fiction convention with e j gold and a lot of other Gurdjieff people and they did the toasting of the idiots the way Gurdjieff used to do it. Everybody got a bottle of vodka and a glass and everybody had to give a toast to some of the…

…yes, it is the current word around l a right now it's a synthesis of all possible schools of psychology, including esoteric psychology, Gurdjieff and so on. It's got a nice blurb on the back from one of the leading Gurdjieff Teachers in the United States…

…schools of psychology, including esoteric psychology, Gurdjieff and so on. It's got a nice blurb on the back from one of the leading Gurdjieff Teachers in the United States so I guess I did Gurdjieff right. Where are my glasses sorry it says this is from…

…got a nice blurb on the back from one of the leading Gurdjieff Teachers in the United States so I guess I did Gurdjieff right. Where are my glasses sorry it says this is from e j gold, who has received communications, apparently because he writes his…

…his books as of Mr G. Well he is Mr G he is Mr G but some people think that his revelations come from Mr Gurdjieff and he doesn't correct them. He can't be all bad though. For a while he was writing something called the fake Sufi School. I thought…

…title page to bob in memory of the old days in Paris G and I don't know whether he really believes he's the reincarnation of Gurdjieff and I'm the reincarnation of Ouspensky or what, or if that's another of his jokes. He had me as guest of honor at a…

…he put on and they showed the magic Christian there and I started a rumor that it was actually based on the Gurdjieff School. Peter Sellers was playing Gurdjieff. The character he was playing was based on Gurdjieff and the character that Ringo Starr was…

…magic Christian there and I started a rumor that it was actually based on the Gurdjieff School. Peter Sellers was playing Gurdjieff. The character he was playing was based on Gurdjieff and the character that Ringo Starr was playing was based on Ouspensky.…

…it was actually based on the Gurdjieff School. Peter Sellers was playing Gurdjieff. The character he was playing was based on Gurdjieff and the character that Ringo Starr was playing was based on Ouspensky. And people after the movie they were telling me…

…time attitude? That's hard to describe. I've kind of developed a habit of detachment. I try continually to look at things in the Gurdjieff way, look at things from outside and not think about me, think about it. This is happening to it now. It wants…

…that is that human transaction static or can it grow at the same exponential pace as the other? And it will be Gurdjieff at various stages of evolution that's the earliest stage of Gurdjieff. There's another one later on which is Gurdjieff as a mammal,…

…the same exponential pace as the other? And it will be Gurdjieff at various stages of evolution that's the earliest stage of Gurdjieff. There's another one later on which is Gurdjieff as a mammal, and that's a whole bunch of sheep busy munching away and…

…And it will be Gurdjieff at various stages of evolution that's the earliest stage of Gurdjieff. There's another one later on which is Gurdjieff as a mammal, and that's a whole bunch of sheep busy munching away and one sheep is standing up and saying wait…

…that's the whole purpose of work on consciousness. Maurice Nicole, who was a physician, a jungian therapist and a student of Gurdjieff, said the only reason that consciousness research is so important is because we need to decrease the amount of violence in…

…And I thought for years in my seminars I've been quoting this story about Ouspensky Ouspensky, prince Peter Ouspensky studied with Gurdjieff and one of the main teachings of the Gurdjieff Schools is that human beings at this stage of evolution are so…

…quoting this story about Ouspensky Ouspensky, prince Peter Ouspensky studied with Gurdjieff and one of the main teachings of the Gurdjieff Schools is that human beings at this stage of evolution are so controlled by conditioned reflexes that they might as…

…are so controlled by conditioned reflexes that they might as well be robots. They're completely mechanical. Anybody who's ever contacted the Gurdjieff work has heard at least that much. Try to see how mechanical you are. As a first step in the Gurdjieff…

…Gurdjieff work has heard at least that much. Try to see how mechanical you are. As a first step in the Gurdjieff work, Ouspensky Couldn't understand what Gurdjieff meant about people being mechanical until 1914, when war was declared. And one day Ouspensky…

…least that much. Try to see how mechanical you are. As a first step in the Gurdjieff work, Ouspensky Couldn't understand what Gurdjieff meant about people being mechanical until 1914, when war was declared. And one day Ouspensky saw a truck headed for the…

…in. Well it's hard to say, you see. So you're a rank amateur at capitalism, a novice, an objectively hopeless idiot, as Gurdjieff would say yeah me too. That's why I'm interested. What are your opinions? Do you have any recommendations on like a direction…

…was talking to bob the first time in Paris back in the 30s this was after we both got kicked out of the Gurdjieff School together there were allegations of a most obscene nature which I wouldn't sully the audience's ears by repeating. But you know the…

…own peculiar ways but it's basically Leary's, although if you trace it back far enough you'll find it's very similar to the Gurdjieff System also which comes out of traditional sufism. I just thought I'd throw that in so nobody thinks I'm an original…