…interesting, Ralph very interesting why don't you just say a tiny bit more about what constitutes evil music? Well since orpheus, Pythagoras and so on, there has been a permanent tradition of music sacred and sacred music is still played various places and…

…or even a tenth of a millimeter. I somehow have limited my model building to the use of self similar fractals just like Pythagoras. Is this so terrible? I'm not sure if we allowed the self similarity in the eschaton, if that would still establish for…

…to get the dionysian religion back on track as it were with psychedelics and away from the booze. And it happened again with Pythagoras and again with buddha. Well and it happened with Dionysius turning into bacchus it was the vine it was wine and the…

…emergence of form from a field of chaos. We don't know what else to call it it's not a mathematical law that was known to Pythagoras and I don't know if it was always there since the beginning of time long before the big bang or if it just emerged…

…what about the eternal laws of nature which scientists have taken for granted for so? Many centuries, concepts going right back to Pythagoras and the ancient greeks. Were all the laws of nature there before the big bang? Well, if they were there before…

…an octave, will also vibrate in harmony. This is the key concept here, harmony. People saw this. And pythagoras, or apocryphally, what Pythagoras did was he filled glass tubes with water. And when he had two glass tubes tuned so that they were an octave…

…at that time were Romans, educated by Greeks, who were epicurean atomists, not Platonists, not followers of Heraclitus or Pythagoras or any of the flashy folks we're into. They were democracy anatomists. Rationalists. Materialists would have been very…

…was part of a kind of lost science that existed in antiquity. This would be a point of view that would see Pythagoras not as the founder and discovered discoverer of music and proportion and number, but would rather see Pythagoras as rather a late…

…would see Pythagoras not as the founder and discovered discoverer of music and proportion and number, but would rather see Pythagoras as rather a late manifestation of a way of knowing that involved sound and resonance and proportion and using interference…

…that followed Christ, who canonized the christian religion. And he placed Hermes Trismegistus as older than Moses, older than Pythagoras, older than Plato. And then it wasn't until Marikasbone corrected that problem. See, we forget how the really transformative…

…I mean? It played in the highest class of competition of all, which is in the realm of formal mathematical theory, as did Pythagoras, as did some of Plato's work. If you're interested in this kind of thing, you know, read the 10th book of the republic,…