c/psychedelic-salon
Dive into the archives of psychedelic thought. Lorenzo Hagerty hosts essential conversations on entheogens, science, and the counterculture.
…wall a disco ball, yes, think of the eschaton as a disco ball well then each of those little reflections I mean here a Christ, here a buddha those are sort of like straight on reflections but here an Eichmann, here a Nixon, these are tweaked images of…
…inexorably unfolding. In other words don't worry. Be happy and let the world unfold on its own. As my favorite song from jesus Christ Superstar goes, try not to get worried and try not to turn on to problems that upset you don't. You know everything's…
…And he said one afternoon as we were walking along through the Amazon, jungle, apropos of nothing he said. This is the path that Christ walked when he lived on earth and it became so. You saw that somehow this was not a logical statement. This was a…
…logical statement. This was a statement about the transposition of time and dimensionality and that he was living in the light of Christ that he was living in the presence of the master through being enveloped in a cognitive hallucination and I think our…
…event is throwing off great sparks that are themselves faceted contradictory epitomizations of this mystery. This is what Mohammed and Christ and buddha are they are human personalities that were situated in time in such a way that they became macrocosmic…
…amazing because part of me feels like we're just in Babylon, you know seriously I mean I look out there and like, oh my Christ, this is just a mess. It's a mess and it doesn't have to be. So it's very interesting having this conversation because you're…
…are packed with love. Do you want to ask? That's right. The question or the comment is: instead of the second coming of Christ It's the second coming of pan yesh that's exactly right. We're going to be wilder, we're going to be closer to nature. We're…
…You could almost have a geometric theory of messiahhood and just say, if you were in the big league, the buddha, Christ Muhammad Mani Mahavira League, then you just caught a very bright reflection from the distant spinning eschaton and then you embodied…
…chariot instead of going up to the chariot which was envisioned in the sky. So these early travelers of the millennium before Christ had brought back this picture which evolved into what we have today under the name of ceremonial magic in the western…
…been practiced now for about 7 000 years. And you know there have been various corrective measures, all failures, I think. Christianity, Christ a corrective measure, somebody who comes and says: you know don't do it that way you know and they get rid of…
…emerge in what's called descending and ascending christology. In the first three gospels in the new testament the model is that jesus Christ is born as a child. He's initiated by John the baptist. A new spiritual illumination occurs at the time of his…
…in the Christian Tradition, the apocalypse that is described in the new testament, where there would be a third coming of Christ in a transformational period lasting a thousand years. So this was, I think millenarian. It's not only the millennium as for…
…3 000 or 5 000 years or our civilization. How old is this one? It starts with the Renaissance or the time of Christ. It's say in the Renaissance, this particular model where this very complicated pantheon of gods and goddesses, I think it could be…
…change in consciousness so that practically every person was connected up into an infinite field of consciousness. That was basically love that was Christ that was the messiah. It wasn't in the sky it was on earth. We still had trees and I'm not I think…
…could call the imagination of cosmic attractor or god the father? Well I'm not sure that I want to follow you into the cosmic Christ for me the mind of the solar system, I think there should always be some physical stuff to hang these things on. The…
…a unique phenomenon in the judeo Christian Tradition. It's in a succession of apocalyptic books which abounded around the time of Christ because many people believed that the end was literally at hand. St John the baptist's message was: repent for the end…
…the gospels, there's these passages of jesus which Terence could easily quote and add to his armamentarium of: is this Nicodemus what Christ told Nicodemus? No it's his prophecies in st luke's gospel about how when the kingdom of heaven comes, when it will…
…to sell them in this textual basis for this fantasy. Is there any idea about the date? Well yeah at the time of Christ, the people who immediately followed Christ expected it within their lifetime. Amen amen I say unto you this generation shall not pass…
…for this fantasy. Is there any idea about the date? Well yeah at the time of Christ, the people who immediately followed Christ expected it within their lifetime. Amen amen I say unto you this generation shall not pass away until these things are…
…a unique phenomenon in the judeo Christian Tradition. It's in a succession of apocalyptic books which abounded around the time of Christ because many people believed that the end was literally at hand. St John the baptist's message was: repent for the end…
…we were walking with don Fidel to his house in the forest and apropos of nothing nothing he said this is the path that Christ walked and then you look around, say you know damned if it isn't the Christ the path the path that Christ walked. Well it…
…nothing nothing he said this is the path that Christ walked and then you look around, say you know damned if it isn't the Christ the path the path that Christ walked. Well it means that don Fidel lived in the imagination. He saw things this way he was…
…the path that Christ walked and then you look around, say you know damned if it isn't the Christ the path the path that Christ walked. Well it means that don Fidel lived in the imagination. He saw things this way he was in all history was present he…
…challenge to science, perhaps the ultimate challenge to it. It may be as confounding to science as the resurrection of Christ was to greek empiricism and roman imperialism. In other words, the flying saucer is definitely an agent of cultural change.…
…the sixties when trigger went up there. Yes. There. Actually, there are a number of shrines. That claim to have part of Christ foreskin. Oh, yeah, the Christ foreskin thing. Well, this is material for a Tom Robbins novel, definitely. I would yield to Tom…
…went up there. Yes. There. Actually, there are a number of shrines. That claim to have part of Christ foreskin. Oh, yeah, the Christ foreskin thing. Well, this is material for a Tom Robbins novel, definitely. I would yield to Tom Tom on that one. But…
…is not a religion. Religions are concerned with the great issues of cosmic fate and cosmic destiny. This is a cult of Christ. It's a cult of personality. And this was actually the earliest take on christianity by non christians. And, I think, you know,…
…conditions support your activity so that you become a mean spreader, then you're suddenly a messiah, a teacher, a buddha, a Christ, a mohammedan. That's what these people were. They were people who were, for reasons, mysterious to themselves, I'm sure, in a…
…God will come tangential to history, that there will come a moment where the two things cross paths. You know, for Christianity, Christ is that moment. And theologians like Karl Barth have described Christ as the axis time. They say, you know, the time…
…moment where the two things cross paths. You know, for Christianity, Christ is that moment. And theologians like Karl Barth have described Christ as the axis time. They say, you know, the time leading into the resurrection was one thing, the time after the…
…get into heaven. They were held in a holding area for several thousand years, from the sin of Adam to the resurrection of Christ. Then Christ's entry into heaven, all those souls accompanied him, and the pipeline was open. And it is open unto the last…
…possibility. And this is the way we can fulfill the expectation of christian hermeneutics, but not require the second coming of Christ or the intercession of God almighty into history, or all these other extreme unlikelihoods. And to understand it, we have…
…part of change, not that we're bringing back the 1960s. That's not it. It's that we're bringing back the 15th millennium before Christ. That's what we're shooting for. And everything leading up to this has been prelude. We are like the prodigal son. I'm…
…so I don't. I don't put it down. I always think of the apostle Thomas. Because you'll recall, Thomas was not present when Christ returned. After, when he rose from the grave, he appeared to the apostles in the upper room, and Thomas was not present.…
…and it was wonderful. And he said, you people have been smoking too many little brown cigarettes. That's preposterous. And at that point, Christ walked in and he said. He said, thomas, come put your hand into the wound so that you will believe. And so…
…that electricity was the Holy Ghost to control and to understand, because we can do it. We don't need the second coming of Christ. We don't need divine intervention to destroy this planet. We can do it well enough on our own. Thank you. So a huge…
…if hortatory beating on people could have worked then we would have solved all our problems thousands of years ago. Because Buddha and Christ and all these other people, they had the right idea. It's just that ideas don't cut the mustard. It has to be…
…what they had in Saskatchewan. So we were all the Senate benefactories of elves insights. And it's when, my understanding is, when Christ was carrying the cross, he fell, and Veronica wiped his brow with her handkerchief. And then it was the. And then the…
…wiped his brow with her handkerchief. And then it was the. And then the next day, on the handkerchiefs went the image of Christ and this awesome painter called St. Veronica Dale. And most powerful thing, we used it every session. When they used it with…
…I'm not ready for that. And so finally, thank God, I looked at it, and it was an overpowering experience to experience what Christ love is. And I was astounded. I was absolutely astounded. So that worked for me. And I thought, if it works for me,…
…first, or at least in this case the Jewish Greeks or the Greek Jews. Because in Philo Judeas, who was a contemporary of Christ, there's a discussion of what he calls the more perfect logos. And he says the more perfect logos will be apprehended through…
…the trick, then the sermon on the mount would have been the turning of the corner. But we have Buddha, we have Christ. We have these examples of enormously insightful spiritual beings who have delivered their message, and humanity has continued to flop on…
…unconscious. I mean, people just thought what they thought and let the chips fall where they may. And every once in a while, a Christ or a Mohammed or a Buddha would come along and reshuffle the deck, and then the game would play on. But we are coming…
…not very demanding. I mean, you know, you give people the four term governor of Arkansas and they think that, you know, Christ is healing in the marketplace. I mean, that's how pathetic the liberal position in America has become, that it can embrace…
…the trick, then the sermon on the mount would have been the turning of the corner. But we have Buddha, we have Christ, we have these examples of enormously insightful spiritual beings who have delivered their message. And humanity has continued to flop on…
…You all remember in the brothers Karamosov, the story that Ilya, or one of them, tells about how during the inquisition, Christ miraculously appears on earth and he visits. He goes to visit the grand inquisitor. And then this conversation, conversation takes…
…and he visits. He goes to visit the grand inquisitor. And then this conversation, conversation takes place between them and the inquisitor. And Christ says, do you know who I am? And the inquisitor says, yes, I know who you are. We don't want it. We've…
…People to believe in UFO's permits them to believe in the imminent expectation of the second coming or, you know, the face of Christ appearing on tortillas and all of this stuff. Terrence, may I stop here for a second? Is there a lot of people still…
…of closure of the roman empire. When you look back into historical time, it's when you reach the first and second centuries after Christ that you reach a world whose psychology was very much like the psychology of our own time. It was a psychology of…
…despair which attends the dissolution of great empires, a literature was created from the first to the fourth centuries after Christ, which we call the hermetic corpus, or in some cases, the trismegistic hymns. Now, this body of literature was misunderstood…
…our understanding to make our way back to the garden, back to Eden. It's occurred to me recently, you know, it's said that Christ opened the doors to paradise, but he closed the doors to Eden. And paradise is a very airy place where everybody sits…
…philologists of the early 17th century, that definitely the hermetic corpus was composed between the first and second centuries after Christ. The method of the Casa Savons was to examine the philosophical language of the corpus Hermeticum and show that there…
…clicked past a certain point and into the age of Pisces. And this was then taken as very fortuitous for Christianity because Christ was associated with the sign of the fish and was seen as a piscean movement. But I believe that it's entirely possible…
…know, we say, okay, well, this Old Testament religion with all this ritual and dietary, this isn't it. So then along comes Christ and tries to fine tune it, but, you know, he's working in the most women repressing male dominator hierarchical structure on…
…first, or at least in this case the Jewish Greeks or the greek Jews. Because in Philo Judeus, who was a contemporary of Christ, there's a discussion of what he calls the moral perfect logos. And he says the more perfect logos will be apprehended through…
…the precession of the equinoxes. It was discovered by. Is it Archimedes? Anyway, it was discovered in the second century before Christ in the west. I see that Kim Melville's group, excavating in the southern Sudan this year, discovered a Stonehenge like…
…the truth? I told you lots of bundled finnegans. This is the resurrection. I mean, Tim Finnegan is very clearly for Joyce a Christ figure. And here is then the first evocation of Tim Finnegan. The fall. Then the viconian thunder of a once Wall street…
…that. This idea of the, of the ensoulment or of the embodiment of word, what does it mean? Is mankind the word? Is Christ the word? ProbaBLY the answer to that question is both. And. But the incarnate logos, the world as information. It's very montric.…
…this neoplatonic thing. And by neoplatonic, I mean proclamation and plotinus and those people who came about 500 years late after Christ. Yeah. Have you been to Ravenna? That's where they have these mosaics that are. Because it was basically a theory of…
…the christos stripped of all the mumbo jumbo. What this is about is the mystery of the resurrection. The idea that Christ was somehow involved in some kind of crypto biological transformation that was necessary in order to unlock the doors of paradise,…
…had. But the conclusions are all wrong. There's an amazing passage in, I think it's Luke. It's the morning after the entombment of Christ and the three Marys. Mary the mother of James, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of Christ, go to the tomb, and…
…the morning after the entombment of Christ and the three Marys. Mary the mother of James, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of Christ, go to the tomb, and Christ is there standing beside the rolled away stone. And one of these women starts toward him…
…of Christ and the three Marys. Mary the mother of James, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of Christ, go to the tomb, and Christ is there standing beside the rolled away stone. And one of these women starts toward him and he says, go read it. It's…
…eschatonic precursive reflectivity and a David Korish. It's a mess. It's a very distorted and twisted kind of reflection. A Christ, a Buddha, a mohammed, a slightly cleaner shot at what it is, but nevertheless, horribly distorted and misunderstood by…
…claimed to be that branch of original christian intentionality that drew itself around John the Baptist. They were a baptismal cult, pre Christ, but just like 40 years before. And they then, in the diaspora, they were in Lebanon for a long time, and they…
…kind of boil, the confounding would occur. This is a similar idea. Right? And he suggested that perhaps the career of Christ was an earlier confounding where roman technique and roman militarism and all these things was unseated by, you know, a peculiar…
…of the resurrection on roman imperialism. And the myths that are building are like the messianic myths that preceded the appearance of Christ. And what they are of is of an intervention by a hyper intelligent entity that comes from the stars and reveals…
…if you will, a personal relationship to the overmind and the flying saucer. What it represents, basically, is an instance of Christ between the individual and the overmind, where the overmind breaks through the oppressive screen thrown around it and comes to…
…this. You know, the existential theology of Soren Kierkegaard. Kierkegaard said, the defining relationship in life is an I thou relationship to Christ and the I thou relationship. And Martin Buber made a great deal of this as well. So it's a profound thing…
…hang up, so I don't put it down. I always think of the apostle Thomas, because, you'll recall, Thomas was not present when Christ returned. After, when he rose from the grave, he appeared to the apostles in the upper room and Thomas was not present.…
…and it was wonderful. And he said, you people have been smoking too many little brown cigarettes. That's preposterous. And at that point, Christ walked in and he said, he said, thomas, come put your hand into the wound so that you will believe. And so…
…to me, because I was surprised that Mohammed got such a. Such a steep fall. One of the great events of human history. Christ is nothing like this. Well, then my New York editor for Lyle Stewart sent me a book that his company publishes called the…
…historical time and place. And then they come back with a story about what it is. Buddha says this, Mohammed says this, Christ says this. These are lower dimensional slices of this transcendental object. At the end of history, what it is cannot be known.…
…There will be more and more of this stuff as we approach the moment of concrescence. And people in the past, Christ, Buddha, you name them. These are people who literally stood in a correct geometrical relationship to the transcendental object at the…
…was just dumb luck, that's all. They were not superior people. I'm sure that if you could enter into the mind of Christ as he went around Galilee performing his miracles, the main thing which preoccupied his inner circumlocution was the question, why me?…
…to get a connection to the logos because it spoke the truth. Well, Philo Judeas, who happened to be an exact contemporary of Christ, born before, died after, wrote a whole 15 volumes of commentary on the syncretic religions of his day. And at one point…
…the New York Times and the London observer are as much tabloids as the trashiest and sleaziest of the alien abduction, Christ scene at the supermarket, Elvis at prayer kind of thing. Because necessarily so, because the New York Times must be understood…
…you're a demo urge, who can hurry? Okay, go ahead. Okay, so the time splitting event had to do with the career of Christ, who was an extraordinary manifestation of energy in the historical time stream, not to be confused with a Buddha or a Mohammed or…
…this other place came into being without having any awareness that. And they were identical. At that moment, these two worlds. Now, Christ had no children, so. Oh, what I forgot to say was that the event, the fractal soliton of improbability, has this…
…the same, except that in one of them, the immaculate Conception had not taken place or the resurrection had not taken place. Now, because Christ had no children in the world in which he was absent, it was not a genetic line which was missing. It was an…
…of civilization than the one that we inherited. Ive always thought, you know, that Christianity, without making any judgment about Christ himself, that Christianity is hands down the single most reactionary force in all of human history. And where would we…
…think of that? I mean, I'm not sure I've thought of that before. You know, it's the claim of christian theologians that Christ comes in the center of history. They speak this same language. Before Christ, no souls were entering heaven. He freed the valve,…
…struggle to come to terms with itself, to discipline itself, to instill, instill values in itself. What? Schizophrenic. The place where Christ meditated the night before he gave himself up to the roman soldiery. So it's a metaphor for, it's called the agony…
…believe it. This is why I always. My favorite person in the New Testament is Thomas the doubter. Because, if you will recall, Christ returned to the. The apostles were gathered in the upper room, and Christ came to them, I think, on the 40th day, but…
…Testament is Thomas the doubter. Because, if you will recall, Christ returned to the. The apostles were gathered in the upper room, and Christ came to them, I think, on the 40th day, but Thomas was not there. So then later. And then Christ went away.…
…in the upper room, and Christ came to them, I think, on the 40th day, but Thomas was not there. So then later. And then Christ went away. And so then Thomas came, and they said, the master was with us. And he said, you know, you guys have been…
…saying, unless I put my hand into the wound, I will not believe it. So then a few days later, Thomas was with them, and Christ came again. And he said to him, Thomas, put your hand into the wound that you might believe. And he did. And he believed.…
…the disciples, the only person in all of human history recorded to have actually touched the incorporeal body of the risen Christ was Thomas the doubter. And he was allowed that. He was vouchsafed that unique blessing because he doubted. And that's. Yes,…
…know, we say, okay, well, this old Testament religion, with all this ritual and dietary, this isn't it. So then along comes Christ and tries to fine tune it. But he's working in the most women repressing male dominator hierarchical structure on the planet.…
…and I have no love for Christianity either, but I'll tell a christian story. This is what I got out of the gospels. Christ appeared several times in the upper room after the crucifixion to the apostles. The first time he appeared, the apostle Thomas was…
…no, he was here. And he said, unless I put my hand into the wound, I will not believe it. So time passed and Christ came again to the upper room, and Thomas was there among the other apostles. And Christ said, Thomas, come forward. Put your hand into…
…not believe it. So time passed and Christ came again to the upper room, and Thomas was there among the other apostles. And Christ said, Thomas, come forward. Put your hand into the wound. And he did. And he did. Now, the conclusion that I draw from…
…from this story is alone. Of all human beings in human history, Thomas the doubter touched the incorporeal, resurrected body of Christ. Only the doubter was allowed that privilege for everybody else, you know, the show. And I just take that absolutely…
…Mushroom and the cross, trying to say that Christianity itself was a mushroom cult. In fact, going much further than that, saying that Christ himself was in fact no person at all but a code, a system of coded epigrams for a mushroom. His case is harder…
…what we're doing. I'm not sure. I believe it's in Matthew when the women come to the tomb on Easter morning looking for Christ. Now, I think the two Ann's Margaret, it's Mary Magdalene comes first, and she's alone, I believe, and Christ is there. She…
…morning looking for Christ. Now, I think the two Ann's Margaret, it's Mary Magdalene comes first, and she's alone, I believe, and Christ is there. She sees him. It is the two margarets who come later. And she starts toward Christ because she thought he…
…and she's alone, I believe, and Christ is there. She sees him. It is the two margarets who come later. And she starts toward Christ because she thought he was dead. And she sees him standing by the tomb. She starts toward him and he stops her and he…
…And I've always thought that this was just a fascinating passage because what is being said here? What's going on here? Christ seems to be indicating that though he is now alive, he has resurrected, he has come through the crucifixion. Nevertheless, in…
…of special abilities. I've said many times, you've probably all heard me say it. Philo Judeus, who was an exact contemporary of Christ, born before, died after, was on a bug about what he called the more perfect logos. And he said, the more perfect…
…Are unseen, unknown. I mean, to take as simple an object in physics as the electron. It seems more remote than the resurrected Christ to me. And yet, by invoking those notions, we then created them. And to try and find further and. Further particles we…
…unconscious. I mean, people just thought what they thought and let the chips fall where they may. And every once in a while, a Christ or a mohammed or a Buddha would come along and reshuffle the deck, and then the game would play on. But we are coming…
…were heavy hitters in the male, heavy hitters in the psychoanalytic movement. It may just be that some people can't be saved, that Christ himself couldn't lift some people out of chaos. I haven't had that experience. I mean I think that. The women in the…
…salvation. Because I don't think we can fix ourselves through rhetoric. If we could fix ourselves through rhetoric, then Buddha and Christ would have done the job. We can only fix ourselves by consciously analyzing our dilemma and then intervening. And I…
…mention the post? Oh, yeah. There's hard and soft visions of it. For example? Well, a very soft vision, meaning not requiring Christ and the angelic host to land on the south lawn of the White House would be. Suppose people just started behaving…
…depression, that sort of thing. Well, so what you're saying is it will come like a thief in the night, unannounced. This is what Christ told Nicodemus. He said, I will come like a thief in the light. No man will know the moment of my coming. Blake…
…in faith. I don't believe in belief. My favorite gospel story is the story of the apostle Thomas, who was not present when Christ came the first time after the resurrection to the upper room. And then later Thomas came to the apostles, and they said,…
…and they said, the master has been here. And he said, you guys have been smoking too much of that red lead. And then Christ came again. But in this conversation with the apostles, Thomas said, unless I put my hand into the wound, I will not believe…
…with the apostles, Thomas said, unless I put my hand into the wound, I will not believe it. And then time passed, and then Christ came again to the upper room, and he said, Thomas, come forward. Put your hand into the wound. And he did. And then he…
…DMT does none of this. You go to that place with all your groceries. You're there and you're there thinking, Jesus H. Fucking Christ, what is this? What is it? And you're thinking, I must be dead. I've done it this time. The psychedelic mantra, I've…
…you will recall that after the crucifixion, this is a good place to end. This is an alchemical story. After the crucifixion, Christ appeared to the apostles in the upper room in Jerusalem 40 days after. And Thomas was not there. I don't know where…
…was with us. And he said, unless I put my hand into the wound, I will not believe it. So then time passed, and then Christ came again to the apostles, and Thomas was among them on this second get go. And Christ walked in and kicked off his overshoes…
…it. So then time passed, and then Christ came again to the apostles, and Thomas was among them on this second get go. And Christ walked in and kicked off his overshoes and looked around the room and he said, Thomas, come forward, put your hand into the…
…is that we're on a collision course with something that we cannot model or imagine at this point. And it's possible to call it Christ triumphant, if that's what you want to call it. Or it's possible to call it the end of the world. Or it's possible to…
…living thing that is, nevertheless has the character of machinery and objectification. It's a very complex image in the human mind, with Christ at one end of the spectrum and the universal medicine of longevity at the other end of the spectrum. And then…
…That almost sounds hallucinatory, like a look back toward paradise or something like that. Well, in a sense, one way of analyzing Christ, if we keep pretty much to the strict orthodoxy and accept the gospels and so forth, is it's a he. He represents…
…in one of the gospels where the three Marys, Mary the mother of James, Mary Magdalene and the other one go to the tomb and Christ is standing outside the tomb and one of the women starts toward him and he says, touch me not, for I am not yet…
…And what Wordsworth called intimations of immortality haunt time like a ghost. And so if you're a Buddha, a mahavira, a Christ, a mohammed, you get essentially, again, it's a geometric theory. You are simply geometrically positioned vis a vis the object at…
…using only the rear view mirror. And that's sort of what we do. But then each one of us, you see, we are like Christ and Buddha and Mahavira. We also have a perspective on the transcendental object at the end of time, on the divine. And we work…
…southern white boy esque that's attempting to be created. But when that's all over and the hard lesson is learned that Christ himself couldn't write the american government as presently constituted, then I think we'll get down to a more serious dialogue. It…
…of the empire. It would have been a shtick of some sort. And there's nothing. Nothing. Only this reference in the story of Christ. Well, you know, weird. Okay, so then you move on. The assumption is that Christ was born in six bc under the conjunctio…
…Nothing. Only this reference in the story of Christ. Well, you know, weird. Okay, so then you move on. The assumption is that Christ was born in six bc under the conjunctio Maximus of Jupiter and Saturn. That places, if you believe the gospels, that he…
…believe the gospels, that he was killed at age 33. That means the crucifixion must have been. Well, there is no reference to Christ outside the gospels until ad 71. What was happening between 27 and 71? It's damn near 50 years, and the whole thing falls…
…caused public disturbances at the behest of their leader, Crispus. This is as close as we get. We don't even know if Crispus is Christ. We just accept that this must be so, because Suetonius is telling us that jews of a religious type have come to Rome…
…people have even wanted to. That Christianity was invented in the late sixties and that there never was a person named Christ. That zealots who were preparing the uprising of 69 against the roman empire created a mythical figure of a generation earlier,…
…by the fall of our first parents. And we can be redeemed. This is. I'm giving you the christian wrap. We can be redeemed through Christ, but we don't deserve it. It is, if you are saved, it is because there is a kind of a hand extended to you from…
…one of the fathers of the early church, one of the patristic writers. That's that generation of theologians that followed Christ, who canonized the christian religion. And he placed Hermes Trismegistus as older than Moses, older than Pythagoras, older than…
…millennia, five millennia, choose a number. Experience has been hierarchically distributed in human society from the top. You know, you get a Christ or a Hitler or a pope, or it's either it's a leader of some sort or a visionary. And then the exegesis…
…the trick, then the sermon on the mount would have been the turning of the corner. But we have Buddha, we have Christ, we have these examples of enormously insightful spiritual beings who have delivered their message, and humanity has continued to flop on…
…his letters, he talks about the four ages of Christianity as the age of the Old Testament God, which ends with the birth of Christ, the second era of Christianity as the era of the sun, the era of the christos, and the third era of Christianity, the…
…interested in UN Rare and high dose experiences done with immense intentionality, you know in silent darkness, at effective doses you know Christ said the lukewarm I vomit from my mouth and that's how I feel about people who chip away at psychedelics and…
…know, it's the claim of christian theologians that Christ comes in the center of history. They speak this same language. Before Christ, no souls were entering heaven. He freed the valve, and now it's possible to enter into heaven before his intercession.…
…calculus and the steam engine. So the overmind, seeing that and seeing their appalling ethical state, sent the miraculous personage of Christ, who, in a world where information could not move faster than a horse's gallop, this religion, within 60 years, was…
…upon us. That's right. That's right. He didn't get around. To the Antichrist, to his credit, probably have to distinguish between Christ, the person, the teacher, and this thing called the Christos, which is this archetype of such power and force that…
…the thing which sets them apart. And when that reaches the kind of super intense focus that you get in a mohammed or a Christ, well, then history is just putty in the hands of the force, not the person. The person is usually martyred in some horrible…
…among the Jews of the post exilic period. It's part of the phenomenon, or it's part of the social expectation. That gave Christ his entree. The early patristic christians lived in the eminent expectation of the end of the world. And then during the…
…basically says something very much like this. I don't know about that. I just think it's very peculiar that we know so little about Christ when he had such a major role to play. I mean, take a guy like Mannai Manai, the founder of Manaism, who was…
…and yet his religion was stomped into oblivion. So there's something funny about all this. And, of course, ChrIst is no ordinary pErson. Christ is the third person of the Trinity, God incarnate. This is a claim. This was an idea that had been around for…
…of these mystical Jews became then the doctrine of the Immaculate Conception. And the whole notion of an immaculately conceived child, Christ, is a type of Dionysius. I mean, it's heresy to say so, but comparative religionists have been saying this for…
…There were all kinds of religious impulses. Yes, he said that these zealots were using amanita muscaria as a sacrament and that Christ was a symbol of the mushroom, so that they could refer to the mushroom without directly referring it, so that only the…
…to that has also reemerged in modern times, is the eminence of the end of the world. And so for about 180 years after Christ, or 150 years, everybody just was like so stoned out on this wrap that no serious organization got done. And they just waited…
…Why did they. Mandianism. Well, Mandianism is a very old religion. It arose around Jerusalem in a couple of centuries before Christ. It was a baptismal cult. And I'm really into the Mandaeans, actually. They were the oldest continuous western religion in…
…John the Baptist as one of their own, and he was a member of some kind of baptismal cult because we know he baptized Christ. But they were driven out of the area around Jerusalem and then for centuries they were in Lebanon. And then they slowly made…