…a nonlinear way as well. And I think that's where it is exciting. And that's where it was like when someone like Paul Hawkins' Drawdown Project brings attention to not just the reducing CO2 from fossil fuels, but the hundreds of solutions that are out…

…And then there's the belief that, of course, we can. In fact, we can reverse global warming. And this is Paul Hawkins drawdown approach. This is people are saying, like, we have never tried everything. beyond just greenhouse gas mitigations. We've never…