…close to the theater for the 36 or 37 years almost now of our marriage and very close to people like Martha Graham, Bess Cunningham, John cage and all those. John in fact did something like five of jean's scores for her, and her first solo performance…

…fact did something like five of jean's scores for her, and her first solo performance wasn't a solo it was in collaboration with Bess Cunningham you see. So I've been close to those people and the relationship to the arts that I've had has been one with…