Are You Abandoning Me or Am I Suffocating You?
Esther Perel
Jonathan
Jul 3, 20268 June 2026
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Twin brothers come to Esther with a shared question: how do they break free from the conflict that has shaped their relationship for years? One feels smothered, the other abandoned, and together they are caught in a cycle of pursuit and withdrawal that neither knows how to escape. With Esther, they
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Hi, Esther. This is Michael. And this is Tyler. And we're trying to figure out how to do our conflict dance different. We're twins. We're 31. I experience some of what happens in our conflict as smoth
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