…between all this and the traditional doctrine of the world soul is that in the traditional doctrine of the world soul of Plotinus and of Plato they had a three fold system where there was the intellect, with the intelligence, which was really the realm…

…mathematics is substantially different from verbal description as a strategy for making models. I mean certainly, if you talk about Plotinus, for example, we have a really you described a visualizable model for the all and everything, including within it the…

…not defined by. Is that in any recalls? Yeah, I think it is. This one without a second caused me to think of Plotinus. One of his definitions of the mystical experience was he called it the flight of the alone to the alone, which mathematically adds…

…don't know if you can understand being stoned. By talking about it, you can create a communal empowerment, that is permission. But Plotinus called the mystical experience the flight of the alone to the alone, and there's something to that. Well, I think we…

…fields of information, which. I don't know if you're like me, but my experience of these things is basically literary. I read Plotinus, I read Heraclitus, I read all this stuff, and I try to integrate it intellectually, but it is a plane of experience…

…within us this neurotic and infantile creature that can't face it alone. This going it alone thing is very important. You know, Plotinus, the great neoplatonic philosopher, he spoke of the mystical experience as the flight of the alone to the alone. And in…

…Plato. We have to remember in our minds, all these people get squeezed together like they could all have dinner together. But, you know, Plotinus is as far from Plato as we are from king Canute. So you have to bear in mind the scale of history. But so…

…mind the scale of history. But so 900 to 1000 years after Plato, a byzantine school of philosophy arose around porphyry, Plotinus and procluse as the major exponents. And they worked with the late Plato and elaborated a beautiful mystical cosmology. This is…

…with the neo Platonists than with this. This material tends to be emotional, evocative, poetic. And while there's great poetry in Plotinus, there's also very tight thinking that goes along with it. And there are other traditions. I mean, I'm making it…

…eventually there's no road, and you have to park the vehicle and get out and walk, I think. And that's the journey. Plotinus, the great neoplatonist, has this wonderful phrase he calls the mystical experience, the flight of the alone to the alone. And I…

…as you describe the octopus type thing where you're communicating not with words or dictionary? Well, it's hard to say. You know, Plotinus, who was a neo platonic philosopher, he described the mystical experience of as the flight of the alone to the alone.…

…by coincidence with what you're talking about. Yeah, I think it is. This one without a second caused me to think of Plotinus, one of his definitions of the mystical experience. He called it the flight of the alone to the alone, which mathematically adds…

…fields of information, which I don't know if you're like me, but my experience of these things is basically literary. I read Plotinus, I read Heraclitus, I read all this stuff, and I try to integrate it intellectually, but it is a plane of experience…

…together to produce phenomena. Well, all those people came out around the end of the 6th or early 7th century. It was Plotinus propolis porphyry. Yeah, plotinus. He had the right idea. And, you know, it was late gnosticism. So all this star magic and…

…the moving image of eternity is another one of these aphorisms that the psychedelic state confirms. And certainly neoplatonism, Plotinus and porphyry and that school are psychedelic philosophers. Their idea of an ascending hierarchy of more and more rarefied…

…glimpses of it. But the real meat of this path is alone in silent darkness on 5 grams or something. Or something. Plotinus, the great neo platonist philosopher of the Byzantine Empire and a great mystic, spoke of the mystical apotheosis as the flight of…

…all of magical humanity is awaiting us and cheering us on, lending their weight. They're all out there, you know, Proclus and Plotinus and Plato and hypatia and Henry Cornelius Agrippa and John Dee and Robert Flood and Eliaphus Levy, they're all out there…

…of monotheism is the form of. Well, I guess it's a form of neoplatonism. I had digested all that, you know, Porphyry, Proclus Plotinus. I do feel the power of the argument that when all boundaries are dissolved, there will only be the plenum, the one,…

…into the dark ages. I mean, you have neoplatonism, which is a group of philosophers in the third and fourth century, Plotinus, Porphyry, Proclus, and that crowd. And they took Plato, the late Plato, and contorted that into a mystical doctrine of emanation.…