…we're in the same condition as that bullfrog. We're sitting in that pail of water and god damn it it's going to boil us. Kathleen, I guess I wanted to slide in a plug for a thing that houses consciousness and that we seem to be overlooking: the…

…wow, what what a bummer that was. Now I know how Reagan feels all the time. Yeah that's what it's like it's a nightmare, Kathleen I I think that mixing mixing is an effort to effort to force a certain certain kind of content that we get addicted to…

…It's like you know the answer. Here it is, what to do with it and I don't know what to do with it. You know, Kathleen, did you find other mixtures that extended that experience besides IMR cell? Or is that any MAO? If your MAO is inhibited, for the…

…Now, what about your impending gum surgery, divorce, bankruptcy, and, you know, I was touching God. Do you mind? So, yes, Kathleen, there's another thing about a person. It should be someone that you. That you value and trust their integrity, but preferably…

…jewish, mind you. As you most likely know already, if you are a longtime saloner, that talk was recorded at one of Kathleen Wirt's famous salons in Venice, California. And should you want to learn more about those salons, you can listen to podcast number…

…more about those salons, you can listen to podcast number 443, which is a talk about her salon that was actually given by Kathleen at one of Ashley Booth's salons in Los Angeles. Also, you can listen to podcast 361, which is titled Caitlin's Salon. And…

…early stories about LSD I think youll find that Gary Fisher often played a very prominent role. So now lets return to Kathleen Salon and listen in as Gary Fisher talks about those early years and about the research he did with severely disabled children…

…how about a drug which just allows you to remember your dreams? That alone might throw open a whole new world of possibility. Kathleen yeah, so if you could get in there, we might solve our drug problem. Because with, because I think that probably every…

…you have sex on psychedelics, you know, there's an incredible enhancement and reciprocal feedback into that. But I don't know, Kathleen. I'm thinking of the concrete practice where that energy, that regenerative energy is conserved. So at the moment of…

…they're the lesser lights. I've seen it many times. Unusual that it should be caused by a plant, but there you have it. Yeah. Kathleen, when we were foragers and the. DMT was in plants, did that affect our nervous system or did it have to have the MaO…

…we've been listening to these past few weeks. If you think back to my previous podcast, you'll remember that both Kathleen Wirt and myself commented about the somewhat high degree of risk associated with speaking about psychedelics in the previous decades.…

…values that we don't know where to begin or who to blame and or who to condemn on a deal like that. So, and as Kathleen makes the point, we're part of the problem. This trade in organs would not exist if it weren't for people like you and I who…