…because the institute was the home of the first one one could argue the first fully complete modern computer designed by John Von Neumann under the protection of Robert Oppenheimer who was then the director of the institute and under attack by the us…

…protection of Robert Oppenheimer who was then the director of the institute and under attack by the us government. But Von Neumann and his team made this beautiful machine called the electronic computer project, which had internal registers it did not have…

…so they could get programs into this thing and it was the machine everybody copied and it became known as the Von Neumann Architecture, which we're still with. Today folks. But one of the interesting things is the third or so full scale program written…

…of authentic evolution and genomes and body plans and things like that has been a fascination of computer people ever since the Von Neumann point I just wanted to raise, Bruce and I have a series of divergent thoughts that will come up no doubt as we…

…of divergent thoughts that will come up no doubt as we both narrate this history. Can you give a definition of what a Von Neumann Machine is Bruce and we can move from there? Well Von Neumann, in a sense some of Von Neumann's writings on this talk…

…this history. Can you give a definition of what a Von Neumann Machine is Bruce and we can move from there? Well Von Neumann, in a sense some of Von Neumann's writings on this talk about this as the contingency architecture and what they could get…

…and it may be branching across this list of instructions or just going through them but that's the basic idea of the Von Neumann type machine: serial processing of these instructions as fast as you can do it and that's basically what we do today. There's…

…instructions as fast as you can do it and that's basically what we do today. There's an element of certainty in the Von Neumann Machine and that is critical in the localised idea of what a Von Neumann Machine is. But I think what fascinates me with…

…There's an element of certainty in the Von Neumann Machine and that is critical in the localised idea of what a Von Neumann Machine is. But I think what fascinates me with modern computation particularly if you look at a series of these things running…

…into some of these elements of the race conditions. So it's interesting that you say that we are still dealing with Von Neumann computing even to this day because I would certainly argue against that this is a non trivial claim. It's been very curious…

…community because there is a kind of traditional community that still thinks of modern day computing as being very Von Neumann but I certainly don't consider modern day computing through the issues that I've described associated with power computing networks…

…modern day computing through the issues that I've described associated with power computing networks and these kind of things being Von Neumann. Are you sympathetic to that Bruce? Well I think it when we did the programming for the evo grid with little…

…I think that this paranoid fantasy of yours although you're you're catching up nicely actually was first put forward by John Von Neumann in 1947 when he invented cellular cellular automata en route to creating self replicating machines. Now his idea but…

…over at the within the heart as it were. Well let me try to answer this. I mean I think the concept which John Von Neumann Didn't have on his plate was the idea of virtual reality. Your objection that the machines cannot escape our control because they…