…associated with what if scenarios, and it's interesting in terms of the early foundations of the definition of artificial life through Chris Langton as life as it could be, because I think humans have been thinking about life as it could be well prior…

…this discussion in terms of the broad and written down history of artificial life it started with a fellow called Chris Langton who basically gathered together a group of thinkers similar thinkers and formed a conference series which is traditionally the way…

…something like that and embarrassingly large number yes some some from the old folks in the field from the time of Chris Langton and the artificial life conference that tom mentioned and some also encouraging hobbyists new people who are entering the field…