…I held with Dr. Marie-Louise Von Frantz in 1977 at her Taro retreat in Bollingen, Switzerland. To analysts and serious students of Jung, Dr. Von Frantz needs no introduction. since young's death in 1961 she has published a great many books and has lectured…

…ever since and it has become her home country When she was 18 and a student at the University of Zurich, she first met Jung with a group of her friends. This was a fateful meeting. Within a year, she had begun analysis with Jung and became his main…

…first met Jung with a group of her friends. This was a fateful meeting. Within a year, she had begun analysis with Jung and became his main research assistant in his extensive studies of alchemical texts. Jung recognized her skills and natural talent for…

…a year, she had begun analysis with Jung and became his main research assistant in his extensive studies of alchemical texts. Jung recognized her skills and natural talent for this work and encouraged her to complete her studies. She obtained a PhD in…

…Reflections of the Soul, and Dreams and Death. To celebrate the centenary of Jung's birth, von Franz published a biography of Jung, C.G. Jung, His Myth in Our Time. This is an in-depth treatment of the way Jung's discoveries emerged from his own…

…Franz has retired from practice and from teaching. Dr. von Franz, I wanted to ask you about your early life before you met Jung. Did you have any experiences of the psyche yourself that interested you or made you curious, dreams or? Not that I remember…

…dreams or? Not that I remember except that I have remembered two very impressive childhood dreams. But I think what led me later to Jung was that when I was about 10 years ago, I read in some youth paper that you can make amber out of resin. Or…

…then when did you meet him? I met him when I was 18. I went to school with the nephew of Miss Toni Wolf and he knew Jung and one day Jung said to him, you can invite a few boys of your class up to Bollingen and he asked if he could also bring…

…you meet him? I met him when I was 18. I went to school with the nephew of Miss Toni Wolf and he knew Jung and one day Jung said to him, you can invite a few boys of your class up to Bollingen and he asked if he could also bring a girl and Jung…

…to him, you can invite a few boys of your class up to Bollingen and he asked if he could also bring a girl and Jung laughed and said, naturally. So we went six boys and that one seven and I makes eight. We were invited to Bollingen just shortly…

…means and how important it is. It's beginning now. It's dawning on the people. people in other fields picked up on your work with Jung and alchemy and on the the meaning of the your curious figure people in theology or in No, as far as I know,…

…being. And therefore at the end of life there's the big showdown. Have you fritted away your life in superficiality? Or as Jung said about a woman once, five minutes after her death she'll not remember this life anymore. Or have you built something…

…That's okay, too. Do you think it's important to develop, to fantasize about death? Oh, yes. I know that one aged pupil went to Jung a few years before his death in order to find out what he thought about life after death and death, and he said, that…

…believed. You have to build up your own viewpoint. You have to work on it yourself and find your own standpoint. You cannot quote Jung in the dying moment, moment of dying. Wouldn't help much. You gave some hints in your book on Jung and his myth in…

…own standpoint. You cannot quote Jung in the dying moment, moment of dying. Wouldn't help much. You gave some hints in your book on Jung and his myth in our time of work that needs to be done in the future, especially in relation to projection. And you…

…the ego? Oh yes, they are beyond the ego, but the ego can cooperate with them or persevere in wrong For instance, Jung defines in a narrower sense projection that we can only speak of a projection, though it's constant projection. What I think about…

…a judgment, an intuitive judgment, but it's probably a lot of my own psyche in it and so but that you cannot call projection Jung says in a strict sense you can only begin to call it projection when it's disturbing when there is a disturbance when I…

…to take on Hindu philosophy and say finally everything is a projection. And that looks like it in that way that if you remember Jung in the memories seeing that yogi meditating him. So in a way the self projects our whole life. Our whole life and fate…

…And when the self takes it back we are out. There's something else in your book that is very intriguing. You mention that Jung discovered realms beyond the self. I don't know quite how to put it. That the psyche is always Opening up more and more.…

…never got into analysis? Sure, it has already touched. I get always letters from people who say that they have begun to read Jung and that changed their whole life. Just yesterday, a letter from a man in the east part of Germany. saying that Jung is…

…to read Jung and that changed their whole life. Just yesterday, a letter from a man in the east part of Germany. saying that Jung is for him everything because he was very neurotic as a young man and since he's read Jung it has helped him to survive…

…the east part of Germany. saying that Jung is for him everything because he was very neurotic as a young man and since he's read Jung it has helped him to survive and to found a happy family and that he has a photograph of Jung on his desk and try…

…man and since he's read Jung it has helped him to survive and to found a happy family and that he has a photograph of Jung on his desk and try to live it and keep in contact with it as much as possible. In Mysterium Conjunctionis Jung makes a…

…of Jung on his desk and try to live it and keep in contact with it as much as possible. In Mysterium Conjunctionis Jung makes a comment about the imagery of the alchemical the alchemical imagery that he's working with in that book being related to the…

…well. But it's secondary, and in the woman, it's primary, I think. Well, this love can be love for not just a person, but love Jung said he gave up defining love, and if Jung felt defeated, I'm not going to try. But when we go back to this man that…

…primary, I think. Well, this love can be love for not just a person, but love Jung said he gave up defining love, and if Jung felt defeated, I'm not going to try. But when we go back to this man that wrote you the letter from East Germany, he was…

…have been love there. Yes, he didn't comment on that in his letter, but I'm sure he wouldn't understand a lot of Jung if he hadn't loved once in his life. Well, what about the relationship between transference and love? Well, in the transference, which…

…in his life. Well, what about the relationship between transference and love? Well, in the transference, which is an expression which Jung took actually over from Freud and Freud thought it was purely a projection of the parental image onto the partner and…

…you ask the other to be a god or a goddess, you will certainly be disappointed sooner or later. And therefore, then Jung found out, as he explains in two essays, the unconscious seemed to reinforce the tremendous importance of the other. For instance,…

…seemed to reinforce the tremendous importance of the other. For instance, this woman who had such a terrific transference strength that Jung was carrying her in a field of wheat and wasn't in the wind. And then Jung realized from that dream that…

…had such a terrific transference strength that Jung was carrying her in a field of wheat and wasn't in the wind. And then Jung realized from that dream that there was a projection of a God image involved, that what the woman was really seeking for was…

…said slowly peels out of all this transference stuff a real relationship. And that might be a close one or a less close one. Jung always said that's regulated by the self. He said, I cannot decide on it. Either it's meant or it's not meant. And it…

…in her pocket, eat him up completely, cutting out all other ladies around him. And there you have evil. Right away, jealousy, as Jung once said, is the greatest flaw of the feminine nature. And in a man, the same thing. So if the totality is…

…enough without interruption. And the unconscious comes up much more. I have much more dreams when I'm here than down in Kisnach. Now that Jung is gone, what do you do about working with your dreams with someone else? Do you find the need to? I find a…

…very great need to, and I don't know what to do about it. I try out all my friends. But already in Jung's lifetime, Jung complained that I had very complicated dreams. He sometimes wiped his forehead after an hour and said, what would you do if you…

…that I had very complicated dreams. He sometimes wiped his forehead after an hour and said, what would you do if you hadn't a Jung to interpret your complicated dreams? And once he said sadly, and I haven't a Jung to interpret mine. And at the time I…

…said, what would you do if you hadn't a Jung to interpret your complicated dreams? And once he said sadly, and I haven't a Jung to interpret mine. And at the time I thought that was an amusing joke, but I see now it's very, very difficult. I sometimes…

…to somebody else then you suddenly, you have it. But it is a great difficulty. You mentioned when you were in the States recently that Jung had a vision at the end of his life of a catastrophe. Can you speak about that a little bit? It was a world…

…enough. Every analytic relationship is a whole new experience. Yes. Oh, yes. That's why we had sometimes students at the institute asking Jung why he didn't make a theory of neurosis. How do you treat hysterics? What do you do with schizophrenics? What do…

…declared she wanted to analyze with me. I was a Latin teacher in the school, that's how I earned my living. And I asked Dr. Jung if I should take her, and he said, well, she's so crazy, you can't ruin her anyhow anymore, so you can try. And so she…

…If you had to give a brief description, what would you say the main value of the research and the writing that you and Jung have done on alchemy is? I would say that a civilization needs a myth to live. We know that if missionaries destroy the myth…

…the Christian myth and could revive it too that way. When you speak about the livingness of matter, I have heard stories of Jung in his tower talking to his pots and pans. Oh, well, naturally, that was partly a joke, but you know. one of the…

…Bollingen, Switzerland. Dr. von Franz is a distinguished Jungian analyst known and respected throughout the world. To serious students of Jung, she needs no introduction. Since Jung's death in 1961, von Franz has lectured widely and has published an extensive…

…Dr. von Franz's later books have covered a broad spectrum of subjects. The more scholarly, in-depth studies include her biography of Jung, C.G. Jung, His Myth in Our Time, a study on physics, number and time, Projection and Recollection in Psychology, and…

…the more recent Dreams and Death. In addition, there are many smaller books which are based on lectures delivered at the Jung Institute in Zurich, where she taught for many years. in this conversation she touches lightly upon some themes which she treats…

…of reincarnation and death. This was filmed in the tower retreat she had built for herself in Bollingen. She told me that Jung had encouraged her to build this tower following his own example in order to provide herself with the quiet and protected space…

…the animus. Imitate men, behave in a brutal or rational or animacy way. Because they have no self-assurance within their own femininity. Jung was very struck when he was in South India which is matriarchal in its basic structure there the men are rather…

…of the way is to... Well, you see the animus is also in the creativity and there is in his right place. That's why Jung was very much for women doing creative work because that occupies the animus in what he should do, namely relate to the unconscious.…

…he accumulates quotations. And then one day you say to yourself now, how do I understand that myself? Now let's put aside even Jung. Let's not quote Jung. Now let's say, how shall I put that myself out of my own experience? And then you notice sometimes…

…And then one day you say to yourself now, how do I understand that myself? Now let's put aside even Jung. Let's not quote Jung. Now let's say, how shall I put that myself out of my own experience? And then you notice sometimes you can't even articulate…

…when one is in the animus, one doesn't feel one is in the animus first. One feels one is oneself. I have made Jung beautiful animus scenes and was absolutely honestly convinced it was my own holy conviction what I was expressing. Only a few hours later…

…So I try it out when I know I'm irritating men, which happens quite often. Then I know, ah, damn it. You spoke about playing with Jung once by the lake. Did you do that from time to time? Yes. He liked to play. He played a lot and he did it very…

…I sat sometimes for hours beside him, just watching, not talking. Once an old peasant went along and said to me, isn't this Professor Jung not a world-famous man? And I said, yes, he is. And he said, wouldn't think it if you see him like that. Do you…

…if you can comment on whether or not there's a shadow What is the shadow of analytical psychology as it has developed since Jung? Well the shadow of Jungian psychology I see mostly in the fact that Jung has found out everything he has found out through…

…of analytical psychology as it has developed since Jung? Well the shadow of Jungian psychology I see mostly in the fact that Jung has found out everything he has found out through groping in the dark and tremendous suffering and we are given that in…

…healer I can cure schizophrenia which allegedly is not curable and so on and you forget that it is not you are doing it is Jung who found these things out And many Jungians forget where am I, how far have I gotten with my own dreams, my own visions,…

…important thing. So the danger is that there's again a, and then that is especially an illness of men, they feel crushed by Jung and therefore they say, I must say different. For instance, they take a concept of Jung and they give it another name, but…

…an illness of men, they feel crushed by Jung and therefore they say, I must say different. For instance, they take a concept of Jung and they give it another name, but it means exactly the same thing, just to be original and creative and not just a…

…a bit that he wouldn't say he is Christ, but you know, he has the great word now to tell. It's a very different fate than Jung had. I mean, to come after him. To come after Jung is a very different fate and one has to fully realize and have the…

…he has the great word now to tell. It's a very different fate than Jung had. I mean, to come after him. To come after Jung is a very different fate and one has to fully realize and have the humility to also recognize this is an exceptional man. In…

…because each time you realize something in yourself, in your own way, then it becomes yours. I, for instance, found out that when I read Jung, I can read his books 20 times and I don't keep them in mind, so to speak, by heart. But when I do some…

…worked out my own approach and that is really coming back to what I said before getting out of the animus who would simply quote Jung and say now quite apart from the animus quoting Jung what do I feel what do I see what have I experienced in my…

…coming back to what I said before getting out of the animus who would simply quote Jung and say now quite apart from the animus quoting Jung what do I feel what do I see what have I experienced in my life where am I what can I say not because Jung…

…quoting Jung what do I feel what do I see what have I experienced in my life where am I what can I say not because Jung says it but because I know it myself too for my own reasons and only that is valid. The rest can be just forgotten again. Once…

…The rest can be just forgotten again. Once in the psychological club there was a big quarrel, we got all pulled into it and Jung afterwards told us, I include myself, he told us, you all behaved as if you had never heard of Jungian psychology. You see,…

…the splits that have happened in many of the training groups? Partly that and partly it's also that most of the pupils of Jung have only gotten one facet of Jung. Jung had so many facets that he also talked very differently to the different people. He…

…many of the training groups? Partly that and partly it's also that most of the pupils of Jung have only gotten one facet of Jung. Jung had so many facets that he also talked very differently to the different people. He gave them what they could take or…

…the training groups? Partly that and partly it's also that most of the pupils of Jung have only gotten one facet of Jung. Jung had so many facets that he also talked very differently to the different people. He gave them what they could take or where…

…when I worked with him so you see everybody got a facet and then the split comes that they think they have the whole Jung and that the others are heretics Instead of realizing that Jung had so many facets and that the Jung they understand isn't the…

…and then the split comes that they think they have the whole Jung and that the others are heretics Instead of realizing that Jung had so many facets and that the Jung they understand isn't the whole Jung. It's their Jung. It's the facet they got. So…

…they have the whole Jung and that the others are heretics Instead of realizing that Jung had so many facets and that the Jung they understand isn't the whole Jung. It's their Jung. It's the facet they got. So the splits are 80% unnecessary. But the…

…that the others are heretics Instead of realizing that Jung had so many facets and that the Jung they understand isn't the whole Jung. It's their Jung. It's the facet they got. So the splits are 80% unnecessary. But the great splits really come, as Jung…

…are heretics Instead of realizing that Jung had so many facets and that the Jung they understand isn't the whole Jung. It's their Jung. It's the facet they got. So the splits are 80% unnecessary. But the great splits really come, as Jung once said about…

…Jung. It's their Jung. It's the facet they got. So the splits are 80% unnecessary. But the great splits really come, as Jung once said about certain groups, they have given up Jungian psychology and they have taken to prestige psychology. And that's the…

…And by you contrasting the two, you have for the first time taught me causality. But that's the difficult thing. You see, Jung always thought, since he knew the I Ching, he meditated on synchronicity. But he said the difficulty of writing the paper on…

…symbolic meaning of that. It was a synchronicity or a telepathic thing, if you want, but I couldn't see any meaning in it. And Jung said that might have only just had the meaning to convince her of the reality of the psyche, and actually it did. From…

…depression and not death, or an illness and not death. There is a certainty. margin of freedom. There were many times when Jung seemed close to death. Yes, and when he recovered he always said, they gave me another lease. You've written about Merlin and…

…own life? I consider one big dream, the dream I mentioned before without mentioning what it was, but the dream I had between meeting Jung for the first time and then asking him to go in analysis with him, which is a dream I consider the biggest dream…

…Why did you mention Merlin? Well, I was just impressed with the parallels in the... Well, that was like that, you see. When Jung asked me to finish the Grail book, Mrs. Jung had died, you know, and left it unfinished. She had left out the Merlin…

…with the parallels in the... Well, that was like that, you see. When Jung asked me to finish the Grail book, Mrs. Jung had died, you know, and left it unfinished. She had left out the Merlin figure because she assumed, like most literary researchers…

…He's the whole thing. He's the real secret. And so that part in the end of the book is all mine. And when I told Jung about Merlin, he was very impressed and he said, oh my God, there are incredible parallels, many things you don't even know. When I…

…his tower to observe the stars. And then there's this coincidence, Merlin, a spring, a new spring came out of the earth and in Jung they found a new spring near his tower and all these parallels which I have mentioned. And it was Jung who was so…

…the earth and in Jung they found a new spring near his tower and all these parallels which I have mentioned. And it was Jung who was so impressed. It's incredible. He said, I can't even tell you all the parallels. But so that is Merlin. And you…

…lot of the Jewish Elias figure. It's an archetype. It's the archetype of the shaman, of the great shaman prophet. medicine man. Did Jung feel that his work would be not understood for a long time? He thought it was possible that it would disappear, that…

…Ages late Middle Ages And he thought that would happen quite possibly with him too. There's a story that goes about that Jung thought he was the reincarnation of Meister Eckhart. I've never heard about that. His stories get woven. Well, you know, he says…

…She earned a PhD in classical languages from the University of Zurich. In 1933, as a young student of 18, she first met Jung. This was a fateful meeting. Within a year, she began analysis with Jung and became his major research assistant in his extensive…

…as a young student of 18, she first met Jung. This was a fateful meeting. Within a year, she began analysis with Jung and became his major research assistant in his extensive studies of alchemical texts. She contributed a great deal to two of Jung's…

…death in 1961, von Franz has published a large body of work and has lectured widely all over the world. Her biography of Jung, C.G. Jung, His Myth in Our Time, is a profound and brilliant illumination of the way his work emerged from his own…

…brilliant illumination of the way his work emerged from his own individuation. During our visits with von Franz, she told me that Jung had encouraged her, even insisted that she build this retreat for herself away from her busy life in Zurich. To design…

…Von Frantz has retired from lecturing and analytic practice. Dr. Von Frantz, I'd like to ask you some questions about your experiences with Jung over the many years that you worked with him. in terms of his own typology he was didn't he feel that he…

…And she did that once in Jung's Tower under a bench and had made a hole there and we laughed about it. and in the dream Mrs. Jung had a big bowl of soup and she said I'm going to put that into that and she put it in that hole which my dog made…

…to the deeper unconscious? You see, a man of his stature, one woman couldn't fill out all his needs for relationship. And Mrs. Jung, he loved her very, very much. But in certain areas of his work, she didn't follow him. She didn't come along. And so…

…that one can have repressed sex and the Oedipus complex. That's now become common knowledge. So now the development goes to discover Jung, because he's still new to the masses, to the majority of intellectuals and so on. And the Freudians feel the losers.…

…say. And then there is another aspect, namely fear. You see, there are many people who are terrified of the unconscious. and as Jung is a kind of advertiser of relating to the unconscious you have to find something to shout him down it's a defense…

…you have to find something to shout him down it's a defense against the defense so it's not so much a defense against Jung but they really if you analyze if you look at those people who have those terrible resistances and always keep up that libel…

…blessing of God. I mean, in the individual, it's the greatest blessing somebody can have. Not used to looking at it that way. Jung always talked about the blessing of a neurosis, because it's the only way you are tempted to look within. As long as…

…encounter with certain payment regulations and all these technicalities, transference, countertransference, that's all nonsense. But that was never what Jung meant. For Jung, analysis was a spontaneous encounter of two human beings. And I think that will always…

…payment regulations and all these technicalities, transference, countertransference, that's all nonsense. But that was never what Jung meant. For Jung, analysis was a spontaneous encounter of two human beings. And I think that will always happen. Because you…

…just be different. I don't know what form it might take or not take, I mean. And then certainly many of the ideas Jung expressed are what one would call in the air. And people find them independently without knowing Jung or reading Jung. They, by…

…certainly many of the ideas Jung expressed are what one would call in the air. And people find them independently without knowing Jung or reading Jung. They, by looking into themselves, come to the same conclusions. So to my idea, they are thousands of…

…the ideas Jung expressed are what one would call in the air. And people find them independently without knowing Jung or reading Jung. They, by looking into themselves, come to the same conclusions. So to my idea, they are thousands of Jungians in the…

…come to the same conclusions. So to my idea, they are thousands of Jungians in the whole world who have never heard the word Jung but to me they are Jungians because they are based on the same experience and the same inner truth they give it different…

…mechanical and done by people who don't feel them anymore more and more and more and that's the great danger that's why Jung prefer to leave it to the spontaneous happenings the hippies meetings where they just waited for happenings was close was close to…

…that he was in working with the inner life he was building on a temple that would take hundreds of years to be built and Jung called him back after an hour to speak about this dream and he said you know how long it will take for the temple 600…

…people are taken for what they are and that's what we have lost and that's what we have to restore again in some new form Jung said that it's easier to be better than we are than simply what we are. In a relationship, we try so hard to please the…

…question is fidelity what the law decides namely that you may not go to bed with another partner which might mean nothing Jung said you can commit adultery sometimes by just looking into somebody's eyes lovingly and that might mean more than having a bed…

…his soldier came and said officer look at what I have to show you and he showed him the decaying corpse of his horse Jung interpreted that that it was saying the warm-blooded animal which you are is going to die that's what's going to happen to it but…

…with thousands of quadrangles and colored triangles and it is constantly alive and moving now the pyramid that would be a symbol of what Jung calls the self the innermost divine center of the psyche it is a like an image of the self for men and women…

…a kind of fluid equilibrium preserved throughout the whole pyramid that is one thing we observe is a function of what Jung calls the self the self this innermost regulating center of our psychological system seems to aim at keeping the whole psychological…

…and therefore because boys if you look at them young boys are the epitome of doing something all the time in an honest Jung always said a boy that is the honest enterprise and that honest enterprise we must therefore probably put together with the fact…

…dream says you did not get the shock from outside you got it from your own nature which reminds one of the fact that Jung once said there is no difficulty which we ultimately are not to ourselves we are our own difficulty and her love difficulty is…

…then up comes this you should not do that animus or it's projected I know the classical case of a woman who once attacked Jung in the analytical hour worse than ever with the animus and they went into what happened in the hour happened before Jung had…

…attacked Jung in the analytical hour worse than ever with the animus and they went into what happened in the hour happened before Jung had told her whenever you have a feeling that's when you attack she had on the way to Jung seen beautiful strawberries…

…in the hour happened before Jung had told her whenever you have a feeling that's when you attack she had on the way to Jung seen beautiful strawberries and her first impulse was let's buy them and bring them to him then the animus said oh he will say…

…creative side of the shadow? a man who had a great gift in writing and who should have written his thesis for the Jung Institute and he had always dreamed that powerful animals pursued him and I interpreted that his creativity wanted to reach him but he…

…not be lost in the harmony of the spheres. Every man has a girl of his dreams, a divine image of beauty and perfection. Jung called a man's inner woman his anima, which is Latin for soul. She animates life. She can inspire a man or devour him. But…

…number of forms that his femininity takes in his dreams the anima has many stages and embraces a great range of psychological facts Jung once divided it in four Eve, Helena, Mary and Sophia the wisdom of God Eve would be the biological woman and when…

…anima is too much excluded from the ideal of the Virgin Mary and therefore the fourth stage is the wisdom of God is as Jung smilingly quoted is a come down because wisdom is not most virtuous spirituality it is closer to life It would be when a man…

…ego we're going to move now to the contrasexual in the man this of course is going to be the feminine the anima as Jung called it the latin word for soul that part which Jung calls the archetype of life that brings creativity, joy, the value of living…

…a spiritual message in the sensual imagery. If we believe that, Then the dream becomes the water of life, which is what Jung called it. Without that nurturing, we are in a desert without water. We are like T.S. Eliot's people in the wasteland. Headpieces…

…our greater potential of life within us Dr. von Frantz how did you first become interested in the study of dreams when I met Jung first he explained something about a case he had who had a vision and he interpreted the vision of that woman and that…

…we call the outer reality and that was a great revelation and a great shock to me and then I went and read the books of Jung and there I saw the importance he gave to dreams and I felt I could never really judge if what he was saying was true or…

…analysis with him and he agreed to that and then every dream interpretation was a revelation I seem to have according to Jung especially difficult and complicated dreams so I never understood a word of my own dreams they were just Chinese puzzling nonsense…

…understood a word of my own dreams they were just Chinese puzzling nonsense and I always arrived with that Chinese puzzling nonsense to Jung and he with a big effort unfolded the whole meaning of it sometimes he took a handkerchief and wiped his head and…

…a man's life where he seems to be closer to the world spirit and where he is free to ask fate a question. Or, as Jung has put it, The decisive question for man is, is he related to something infinite or not? If we understand and feel that here in…

…is, how can we know a bit more about this infinite essence? How does it link with our time-bound conscious life? Jung has defined consciousness descriptively in several ways, such as it being that field in which psychic contents are associated with the…

…consciousness seems to arise in a zone of friction between external stimuli impinging upon the archetypal data. If we collect what Jung has said in various places about ego-consciousness, it becomes strikingly clear that in its structure it is a small but…

…as much in mythology an image of consciousness as a symbol of the godhead or the self. This is why, in the Mysterium Conjunctionis, Jung says at the end of his chapter on the sun literally that the ego is identical with the lapus, lapis, and thus with…

…the self. Just as in India, the personal Atman has always been identified with the cosmic self or Atman. One can, Jung continues, charge me with grossly contradicting myself. I have defined the self as the totality of the conscious and unconscious society,…

…the whole family went to Zurich, and it was in Zurich that she received her formal education. It happened sometime in 1933 that Jung realized he had no contact with the young generation. So he asked a nephew of Toni Wulff to visit him in Bollingen and…

…seven other young people with him. Marlwus was the only girl of the group of eight. They spent the whole day talking with Jung about God, the world and everything else. They had a wonderful lunch and a wonderful dinner with wine and coming home, Marluz…

…realized she would need ten years to digest all that she had heard in this one day. Then she read all the books Jung had written up to that time and somewhat later she heard that Jung was giving seminars at the ETH, the Eibgenössische Technische…

…one day. Then she read all the books Jung had written up to that time and somewhat later she heard that Jung was giving seminars at the ETH, the Eibgenössische Technische Hochschule, the Caltech of Switzerland, the great institution where Einstein failed…

…towards him, thinking, if he remembers me and recognizes me, I will greet him. If he doesn't, I won't. What happened, however, was that Jung went up to her and greeted her, and so then she decided to go into analysis with him. Well, she had no money,…