…beautiful and that there are extraordinary effects of light and so on in the sky. There's a very beautiful passage by Ruskin about the sky saying, Isn't it incredible that this marvelous thing is totally disregarded, except when it's doing something extreme,…

…It hasn't become a source of wonder. Yes, but I mean, even when it wasn't the habitat of an enemy, at the time when Ruskin was writing, he said... Plenty more people then looked at the sky than do now. Yeah, I think it's true, and plenty more people,…

…the world of nature, I think there could be no doubt at all that poets such as Wordsworth and prose writers such as Ruskin did an enormous amount to make large numbers of readers aware of aspects of nature which they'd never been aware of before. And…