…The East is now just intoxicated with nationalism and is rushing off at full speed, exactly as the West was at the time of Mazzini in 1840. So you have these, the difficulty of the two speeds of parts of the world moving at different speeds, and it's…

…of nationalism. In this respect, this extremely astute and penetrating mind was much less realistic than the otherwise rather woolly-minded Mazzini who built up a kind of idealistic theology of nationalism but who at any rate saw the enormous power latent…