…know anything about at all before. I mean, they sort of introduced me to modern art, to post-impressionism and cubism and so on. Keynes I knew less well, but I mean, he was always fascinating. He had this immense range of knowledge and would come out…

…I mean, his enormous knowledge and sensibility, and he was a wonderful talker. And then Clive Bell, of course, was around, and Keynes. I didn't think it was any worse. Oh, okay. I was looking at some the other day. They are very strange. They're…