…knows every day of his life what he is doing. He, uh, communicated something that was told to me the other night by Dr. Ryan. He, uh, I told him that the doctor, uh, Dr. Soroka, actually were getting together, and he said he couldn't communicate his,…

…way exploited by all sorts of currents and so on, which are very far from any scientific investigation of these phenomena, whether by Ryan or by few other, you know, investigators. And so I simply told, partly on my own experience, that we have if he…