…know it means you just do anything you like. It's true you see that certain of the Great Zen masters have said: Zen is. Rinzai made this point very strongly. He said in Zen there is no place for discipline or for Buddhism or for making efforts. You…

…disciples and those disciples had disciples and there's a genealogy and Zen broke into what are one is called by the Japanese Rinzai Zen after the great master rinzai who lived towards the end of the ninth century. And the Soto School comes from another…

…School comes from another line and they have a slightly different emphasis. Soto is more serene in its approach, rinzai more gutsy. Rinzai people use the koan method in Zen study Soto people don't, at least not in the same way. But this period between…

…See there's something wrong, something I ought to find out to get this problem of life cleaned up. Well you know what you do. Rinzai the old Chinese master, said Zen teaching is like using an empty fist to deceive a child. Or like trying to stop a…

…meaning of the Zen saying: when you are hungry, eat when you are tired, sleep when you walk, walk when you sit. Sit. Rinzai, the great tang dynasty master said: in the practice of Buddhism there is no place for using effort. Sleep when you're tired,…

…called five houses and these some of them didn't go on. Zen went on in two main forms. One is called by the Japanese Rinzai Zen after the great master rinzai, who lived towards the end of the 9th century, and the Soto School comes from another line…

…School comes from another line and they have a slightly different emphasis. Soto is more serene in its approach, rinzai more gutsy. Rinzai people use the koan method in Zen studies, Soto people don't, at least not in the same way. But this period between…

…know, it means you just do anything you like. It's true you see that certain of the Great Zen masters have said: Zen is. Rinzai made this point very strongly. He said: in Zen there is no place for discipline or for Buddhism or for making efforts. You…