…were the unquestioned masters. So a group of samurai one day thought we've got to put this to the test. We think that probably Mr Matsushima is tots, but Mr Yamaguchi comes so close. So they took a sword by each master and they went to a stream and…

…the edge of the sword, it moved to one side, avoided it, then went back into course and continued. And so obviously Mr Matsushima was the better of the two swordsmiths. Why? Because the highest accomplishment in fencing is called the no sword school: to…