…taking a partisan point of view to any one discipline, although they've had very powerful people there like the late Fritz Perls, who could have dominated the whole scene, but that never happened. Now they are equally interested in the strictly intellectual…

…taking a partisan point of view to any one discipline, although they've had very powerful people there like the late Fritz Perls, who could have dominated the whole scene, but that never happened. Now they are equally interested in the strictly intellectual…

…taking a partisan point of view to any one discipline, although they've had very powerful people there like the late Fritz Perls, who could have dominated the whole scene but that never happened. Now they are equally interested. In the strictly intellectual…

…don't really. But you see, we could take that to another level and say: well that's just life. Once I was talking with Fritz Perls at the esalen institute and he said: the trouble with you is you're all words. Why don't you practice what you preach? So…