…the most tragic thing that I learned from European politics is that, and you have elements of this even in Trump, is that, you know, which European government did recently the most radical pro-working class enacted, pro-working class measures. The extremely…

…it meant absolutely nothing. You know what I mean? The academic left should think what they did. Instead of just making fun of Trump, they should ask themselves how did they and the liberal left contribute to Trump. The metaphor I like to use is that of…

…think what they did. Instead of just making fun of Trump, they should ask themselves how did they and the liberal left contribute to Trump. The metaphor I like to use is that of medicine. If we just fight Trump, and we should, we are doing what in…

…how did they and the liberal left contribute to Trump. The metaphor I like to use is that of medicine. If we just fight Trump, and we should, we are doing what in medicine is called, if I know it correctly, symptomatic healing. You have a pain, you…

…know it correctly, symptomatic healing. You have a pain, you take a pill just to ease the pain. But we should never forget that Trump was a reaction to the impotence and wrong politics of the liberal left. So the change has to happen there. I mean, I…

…left. So the change has to happen there. I mean, I am absolutely, I was misunderstood when I made those provocations, you know, for Trump. Trump is a nightmare. But at least you know it's a nightmare. What I fear if Hillary were to win is that people…

…So the change has to happen there. I mean, I am absolutely, I was misunderstood when I made those provocations, you know, for Trump. Trump is a nightmare. But at least you know it's a nightmare. What I fear if Hillary were to win is that people would…

…Hillary were to win is that people would say, oh, thanks God, now we are back in normal times. No, we are not. I mean, Trump was a wrong reaction to a real problem. Okay, you have to stop me. Now comes my surplus pleasure. I spoke so long, and then…

…that we really have to change our attitude in a much more collective, large-scale thinking. We don't even know You know, like when Trump and his guys say, but we don't know what is... It's not sure that it's global warming. My answer is, that's what…

…worry very much, I've written a short text on it, is this incredible oscillation between fear, panic, and renormalization. It's like with Trump. You get panic, oh, it's fascism, and you get Nancy Pelosi. Oh, it's normal, no problem. I spoke with some of…

…you know, who knows who will take over after? Maybe a guy will take over in comparison with whom we will praise the good old Trump times. You know what I mean? But I just think, again, that what we can do now is just... write about it, make it clear…

…bad is happening, Instead of thinking, they apply the old names. Oh, it's fascism and so on and so on. Well, I'm not saying Trump is better, but whatever he is, it's a little bit ridiculous to call him a fascist. Because it's a new, as you said, if…

…are effectively doing from Reagan, beginning from Reagan, in his practical politics, Ronald Reagan was a brutal Keynesian. engage in, and now Trump is doing the same, military spending and so on and so on. No, so I even doubt very much the term…

…of many components to form one thing. Which are relatively independent. Yes, that's right. Like, as we already talked before, Trump is an assemblage. It's crucial to understand him in the sense that he built his relative hegemony through assembling elements…

…this, a certain that, and so on. And it's inconsistent, obviously. But beware, this inconsistency is his strength. Before we get into Trump, can I answer some of the points from your... Because there were so many interesting things there. I was going to…

…there in space, but also, let's say, the eye of somebody, an eye of a subject, an eye of somebody let's say like Trump. Watching. You know, Trump is watching. Let's say Trump, the French would say Lloyd, Trump Lloyd, out there and producing a kind of,…

…also, let's say, the eye of somebody, an eye of a subject, an eye of somebody let's say like Trump. Watching. You know, Trump is watching. Let's say Trump, the French would say Lloyd, Trump Lloyd, out there and producing a kind of, another kind of…

…somebody, an eye of a subject, an eye of somebody let's say like Trump. Watching. You know, Trump is watching. Let's say Trump, the French would say Lloyd, Trump Lloyd, out there and producing a kind of, another kind of narrative, let's say, about this…

…eye of somebody let's say like Trump. Watching. You know, Trump is watching. Let's say Trump, the French would say Lloyd, Trump Lloyd, out there and producing a kind of, another kind of narrative, let's say, about this event. An alternative, perhaps,…

…How would you begin to describe now this quadruple looking at each other? I'm trying to avoid the temptation to unload on Trump right now. But Trump would have probably read it as, you know, something sexual, two bodies hitting each other. Well, it comes…

…to describe now this quadruple looking at each other? I'm trying to avoid the temptation to unload on Trump right now. But Trump would have probably read it as, you know, something sexual, two bodies hitting each other. Well, it comes back to a couple…

…truth to begin with? But I think we're in a phase of post-reality politics. And Bruno Latour wrote an interesting article about Trump that you can read in the Los Angeles Review of Books online for free, where he made an interesting case. He said…

…about Trump that you can read in the Los Angeles Review of Books online for free, where he made an interesting case. He said Trump is not a fascist, because at least as Latour reads fascism, it's a kind of fake attempt to bring back the Greek and…

…fake attempt to bring back the Greek and Roman polis combined with technology. You agree? Oh, good. And he said what Trump really is is an escapist. Because what are really the political issues? Climate change, refugees, and he's simply pretending they…

…audience on the other side. who might not be able to distinguish between, let's say, the photograph and the fiction. But back to Trump, sorry. I agree with this description, and I also agree that Trump is not a fascist. You know why? Because would you…

…between, let's say, the photograph and the fiction. But back to Trump, sorry. I agree with this description, and I also agree that Trump is not a fascist. You know why? Because would you agree with this? The majority of leftists are, I'm very critical of…

…neo-fascism, fascism, and so on. It's not. Even I claim, look, we have to analyze all this. Like they claim, oh, Trump dismissing immigrants or European new right. It's the same as Nazi anti-Semitism. No, it's not. Moshe Poston, the Chicago Marxist,…

…Here I read your point about failures and so on. What I'm afraid of is, again, escapism can be very effective politically, even if Trump is an escapist. It can work for a couple of years. A couple of years? Even more, even more, yes. So my point is,…

…what I call... although I love him, I often watch him, John Stewart syndrome, you know, or we are so much wiser, we make fun of Trump and so on and so on. Well, we make fun of him, but he may have the last laughter at least for a couple of years.…

…fun of him, but he may have the last laughter at least for a couple of years. Maybe a question is then, if he's... Who, Trump? If Trump is so good at making reality unfamiliar to us, and I'm here now coming back to some of the terms that maybe come…

…him, but he may have the last laughter at least for a couple of years. Maybe a question is then, if he's... Who, Trump? If Trump is so good at making reality unfamiliar to us, and I'm here now coming back to some of the terms that maybe come up…

…Ostranenje rendering strange. I think, nonetheless, we should not confuse two things. One is Ostranenje, and here I see the danger of Trump. It's more that Sorry, this is strange, in the sense that things that were unthinkable 10 years ago, to be openly…

…and so on, are now all of a sudden acceptable, they no longer even surprise us. That's the tragic sign of regression for me. Trump is for me not only economic, political, but even, not even moral, a catastrophe at the level of public decency. So do you…

…hegemony which failed, which is failing not only in the United States, but also in Europe and so on. We will not get rid of Trump. So the crucial task for me is to change something in this left liberal field, to move it maybe. lead more to, should it…

…maybe. lead more to, should it even call it left? I have the same doubts as you about left, right, and so on. Otherwise, Trump will just return. That's not the key point. So my crazy hope was that it's maybe worth to take the risk, Trump, to mobilize…

…Otherwise, Trump will just return. That's not the key point. So my crazy hope was that it's maybe worth to take the risk, Trump, to mobilize to bring something like more Bernie Sanders, whatever, and so on and so on. This is why the truly dangerous…

…situation. She made recently an interview where she said, don't worry, we had Reagan for eight years, we had Bush, we will have Trump, things will go normal, and so on. No, Trump is really a catastrophe. Can I pick up the term catastrophe? that you…

…said, don't worry, we had Reagan for eight years, we had Bush, we will have Trump, things will go normal, and so on. No, Trump is really a catastrophe. Can I pick up the term catastrophe? that you brought up. Because I think, and this is from the…

…That would be the simple, this simple ideological regression. But I think we should not confuse this, like what, in the way Trump estranged us from old liberal certainty, with another, like here... It may surprise you, but although I know you don't agree…

…It's pretending to be attached to something that you're not, such as family or country or friends that you have betrayed. So it's Trump. Trump would be the sinner first. Where would you put Trump? But isn't he a fraud exactly in this sense? He pretends…

…to be attached to something that you're not, such as family or country or friends that you have betrayed. So it's Trump. Trump would be the sinner first. Where would you put Trump? But isn't he a fraud exactly in this sense? He pretends America…

…such as family or country or friends that you have betrayed. So it's Trump. Trump would be the sinner first. Where would you put Trump? But isn't he a fraud exactly in this sense? He pretends America first and so on. Yeah, he's a fraud in almost every…

…Pen. In Germany, Pegida in power. If this... Defenders of Europe get into power. Europe is finished. But you know that they said Donald Trump was a clown. What? Was a clown. And he may still be a clown, but he's a much more dangerous clown now than he…

…trained philosopher who knows how to distinguish clowns and clowns, you know. Nigel Farage is not that kind of a clown. But with Trump, ah, let me shock you now. Now come the shocks. Trump, no, no, no, I'm not crazy. The reason I have a certain…

…you know. Nigel Farage is not that kind of a clown. But with Trump, ah, let me shock you now. Now come the shocks. Trump, no, no, no, I'm not crazy. The reason I have a certain understanding for Trump is not because his wife is Slovene. That's why…

…let me shock you now. Now come the shocks. Trump, no, no, no, I'm not crazy. The reason I have a certain understanding for Trump is not because his wife is Slovene. That's why he's so popular in Slovenia. Ooh, we will have a first lady in White House.…

…is Slovene. That's why he's so popular in Slovenia. Ooh, we will have a first lady in White House. No, it's another thing. Trump is doing, of course, he's an extremely vulgar guy with a lot of bullshit. in what he's saying. You know, the best…

…of course, he's an extremely vulgar guy with a lot of bullshit. in what he's saying. You know, the best characterization of Trump was from one American commentator who said, imagine a high-class party, and then one of the people pulls his trousers down…

…been to a party like that. Because you're not part of the American ruling elite. No, but I'm saying that it's not just Trump. Do you know Louis Bunuel's film... Phantom de Liberté, Phantom of Freedom, one of my favorite scenes where they turn around the…

…this in public. Go there discreetly. This is now American politics, more or less. And if we remain at this level, look. Read Trump closely, and you will see that if you, which is difficult to do, I know, abstract his total racist, sexist stupidities, and…

…from here and there where he makes a concrete proposal, they're usually not so bad. He said he will not totally dismantle Trump. universal health care, which is a taboo for all others. He said, very importantly, you know the Jewish lobby is now against…

…because he said we must find the right balance there. He was for raising minimal wage and so on. So I think that Trump is the... Paradox who he's really a centrist liberal. Maybe even in his economic policy closer to Democrats. And he desperately tries…

…it also can be... You know, back to what you asked me at the beginning. You know what's my problem? No, yeah. What if Trump... No, Trump. What if... If Trump is by some miracle elected president, I don't fear. He is a conformist. But what if Sanders,…

…can be... You know, back to what you asked me at the beginning. You know what's my problem? No, yeah. What if Trump... No, Trump. What if... If Trump is by some miracle elected president, I don't fear. He is a conformist. But what if Sanders, by some…

…to what you asked me at the beginning. You know what's my problem? No, yeah. What if Trump... No, Trump. What if... If Trump is by some miracle elected president, I don't fear. He is a conformist. But what if Sanders, by some absolute magic, which…

…you think that you could explain, I guess, briefly the reason why you think so many people are voting for Bernie Sanders, Trump, Corbyn, and some of the other populist movements? Okay. Yeah. Hi there. You talk about, you often mention a broken system. My…

…it yesterday, I think, with the discussion of surplus pleasure and so on, but even so, there were many other things which intervened, mainly Trump incentive, and so on. But I will see. I love you for this. You are the best example of what I know, that…

…same, nobody knows it. So again... you see the beauty don't disappear soon you will have a duty and now I will play Donald Trump where are you going to the toilet disgusting what are you doing you know I mentioned this yesterday Donald Trump you are my…

…will play Donald Trump where are you going to the toilet disgusting what are you doing you know I mentioned this yesterday Donald Trump you are my Hillary now sorry let's go on But you see the beauty of Adorno's solution. The very thing that appeared as…

…of spectacular statements like the Muslim ban? so that it becomes a point of discussion amongst pundits and trickles down. You mean Trump, what he said? Yeah, I mean, okay, so... Are you aware what you asked? Three hours talk, just... Okay, of course, now…

…talk, just... Okay, of course, now let me begin with something problematic for which I am often attacked. First, no doubt, Trump is like disgust embodied, you know, right? But I find him interesting because, not because, you know, in Slovenia Trump is…

…no doubt, Trump is like disgust embodied, you know, right? But I find him interesting because, not because, you know, in Slovenia Trump is very popular. You know why? His wife is Slovenian. Melania now. So, uh-oh, we'll be in the White House. No, but…

…why? His wife is Slovenian. Melania now. So, uh-oh, we'll be in the White House. No, but for serious. I think Trump is a filthy populist opportunist, but whenever he makes concrete proposals, commitments, They are quite often much more ambiguous. Did you…

…opportunist, but whenever he makes concrete proposals, commitments, They are quite often much more ambiguous. Did you notice that Trump was the only Republican who said something minimally reasonable about Middle East peace process? That we should also listen…

…reasonable about Middle East peace process? That we should also listen to the Palestinian side and so on and so on. Trump said we should start seriously negotiating with Putin instead of justice, warmongering. Trump said he is in principle for a rising…

…listen to the Palestinian side and so on and so on. Trump said we should start seriously negotiating with Putin instead of justice, warmongering. Trump said he is in principle for a rising minimal wage. And so on and so on. So I think if you ask me, I…

…know, okay, I'll put it like this. If I were a Muslim here, I wouldn't be afraid of this person. vulgar types like Trump too much. Much because nonetheless there is, I hope, although one has doubt, a certain limit to this vulgar populist appeal. I'm…

…to what you say, torture. For me, the true scandal is not that some people are now openly for torture. Also, my beloved Trump, I know he said, ooh, waterboarding, much more, much more. The true horror is that torture became a topic of public debate at…

…politics reproduces itself, those in power, is breaking down. That's the meaning of phenomena like in Europe or also down there, like Trump said that and so on. And these are very dangerous moments, but also moments of hope. We shouldn't be afraid of…

…of Mao, everything under heaven is in disorder, so the situation is excellent. This is what is happening today. I mean, without Trump, there wouldn't have been Sanders. Not because they are opponents, but the same situation that in the case of Trump means…

…Trump, there wouldn't have been Sanders. Not because they are opponents, but the same situation that in the case of Trump means the breakdown of this standard way how democracy works. officially reproduces itself because that's the basic lesson. Democracy…

…do that. But what I will say, a part of me even says like those people, Some of radical Bernie Sanders supporters. Maybe better Trump than Hillary. No, don't be afraid. I'm not ready to do this. But just part of my heart moving in that direction. Okay,…

…one. First, I always empathize. I mean, I have detailed analysis in past books, in text that I write now. What's the danger of Trump? And as I emphasize, Trump is not only dangerous at the level of content, you know, But even as I emphasize at the…

…I mean, I have detailed analysis in past books, in text that I write now. What's the danger of Trump? And as I emphasize, Trump is not only dangerous at the level of content, you know, But even as I emphasize at the level of forum, in the sense…

…only my standard examples where, for example, torture is a legitimate topic today and so on, but many, many others. So, of course, Trump embodied this vulgarization. And I think there is a great irony in this and maybe a chance for us, I don't like the…

…real contact with other races and so on knows that it's possible. That's the true art. Well, I agree with you. Return to Trump. You know, I'm noticing that you have said or confessed in public before that sometimes you speak for a long time in order…

…No, no, no, but here I'm fully ready. Okay, I know, I know. So let me just ask the question, though, about Trump. You don't regret taking that contrarian position about Trump, that he was a less dangerous U.S. presidential candidate. It sounds like you…

…I know, I know. So let me just ask the question, though, about Trump. You don't regret taking that contrarian position about Trump, that he was a less dangerous U.S. presidential candidate. It sounds like you said that already. Yes. I feel that he's some…

…have been better off with the status quo for a few more years rather than facing this threat. Yeah, and get an even stronger Trump. Because what I think is this. Let me, I have at three levels, I have a problem with this standard opinion. First, okay,…

…God, the old fascism. It will be more something that I'm tempted to call liberal fascism. Second thing, in spite of all horror at Trump, I, for example, in New York, I was two months ago at a roundtable and there a guy, one of the representatives of…

…pluralistic state with many seats of power, trends, contradictions, and so on. So my wager was this one. A, with all its danger, Trump does not pose a real, he may pose an enormous, I agree with Chomsky, ecological threat and so on. Who knows what his…

…economy will do, but I don't think he poses a real fascist threat. But, and that was my point, and on this I insist, Trump is a symptom. Symptom in the sense that, isn't it clear that The way his populism exploded, the way he found support with so…

…so on, was the same dissatisfaction out of which grew Bernie Sanders and so on. So for me, the crucial thing is that Donald Trump is a symptom of the fake democratic liberal left of Hillary Clinton and so on. So that's my entire point. If we, if…

…Democratic Party doesn't move a little bit more in the direction, for example, of Bernie Sanders, then we will not get rid of Trump. Maybe not Trump, but another one. And you mentioned Europe. I will give you same examples here. For example, do you know…

…move a little bit more in the direction, for example, of Bernie Sanders, then we will not get rid of Trump. Maybe not Trump, but another one. And you mentioned Europe. I will give you same examples here. For example, do you know a little bit the…

…I tell you, Solveig, the thing is, what you're saying makes perfect sense to me, but it actually makes me worry that Trump and Le Pen and others are more... fascist than you're letting on, because my understanding is that fascists tend to be Keynesian.…

…He mobilized the same, okay, not quite the same, but he mobilized the same, let's call it popular unease and so on that Trump did. And that's the only answer. What I think is a catastrophe is this, and I see already these two reactions predominating in…

…a catastrophe is this, and I see already these two reactions predominating in the Democratic Party. On the one hand, this fear of Trump, Trump, the end of the world, blah, blah. On the other hand, and I find this quite logical, did you notice, this is…

…catastrophe is this, and I see already these two reactions predominating in the Democratic Party. On the one hand, this fear of Trump, Trump, the end of the world, blah, blah. On the other hand, and I find this quite logical, did you notice, this is for…

…Her line was, listen, every from time to time we get a big Republican conservative figure. It was Reagan. It was Bush. Now it's Trump. Don't worry. They will screw it up in eight years. We are back and so on and so on. Right. That's the horror. She's…

…They will screw it up in eight years. We are back and so on and so on. Right. That's the horror. She's renormalizing Trump. Right. And I find it so typical because this either Trump is the ultimate horror or renormalizing Trump. are both ways to avoid…

…so on and so on. Right. That's the horror. She's renormalizing Trump. Right. And I find it so typical because this either Trump is the ultimate horror or renormalizing Trump. are both ways to avoid this, I'm sorry to use this old Stalinist term,…

…horror. She's renormalizing Trump. Right. And I find it so typical because this either Trump is the ultimate horror or renormalizing Trump. are both ways to avoid this, I'm sorry to use this old Stalinist term, self-criticism. That's my point. The key to…

…Trump. are both ways to avoid this, I'm sorry to use this old Stalinist term, self-criticism. That's my point. The key to defeating Trump, and okay, I even, maybe you noticed it, I said just for a couple of days that stupidity, I support Trump. My…

…to defeating Trump, and okay, I even, maybe you noticed it, I said just for a couple of days that stupidity, I support Trump. My official party line in an article published in Indy Steins was don't vote, you know. Mm-hmm. I quoted that wonderful novel…

…that I'm ready to change my mind. But don't you agree that in the long term, it's the same in Europe. The way to beat Trump, Le Pen and so on is to do a little bit of self-criticism to change our politics, to address worries of ordinary working class…

…it doesn't work. I think the only answer is my hope. Maybe I'm too utopian here. Let's say that somehow as a reaction to Trump, there will be stronger in the Democratic Party, a little bit of a move to the left, Sanders and so on. Let's say that…

…my Islamophobia, but Arabs like what I'm doing, my God, you know. It's a totally crazy situation. So back to your big Trump question. Listen, I don't have any problem changing my opinion. It was not a big principle opinion. It was maybe wrong empirical…

…Loser Sons, Politics and Authority. Please join me in welcoming Avital Ronel. Loser Sons. Loser sons. Loser, like those who are losers. Like Trump. Yeah, yeah. Hello, everyone. And to say, to put it in this LGBT way and every day, so that it's not only…

…The university and learning will be, is already a target of opportunity for the new regimens. We now compete with Trump University, among other institutional mutations. But there will also be social aggressions that come from outfield or left or right…

…is a political triad which renders perfectly this predicament that I'm trying to describe. Three names enter. Hillary, Duterte, Trump. Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, are they not today's ultimate political couple? Trump is precisely what Badiou is…

…renders perfectly this predicament that I'm trying to describe. Three names enter. Hillary, Duterte, Trump. Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, are they not today's ultimate political couple? Trump is precisely what Badiou is describing, the eternal adolescent, a…

…Three names enter. Hillary, Duterte, Trump. Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, are they not today's ultimate political couple? Trump is precisely what Badiou is describing, the eternal adolescent, a reckless hedonist, prone to irrational, brutal outbursts that…

…we condense the three... Into one, we get an ideal image of the politician today. I would call him Hillary Duterte Trump. Hillary Trump, the main opposition, plus Duterte, the embarrassing intruder who signals violence that sustains both. And you know where…

…the three... Into one, we get an ideal image of the politician today. I would call him Hillary Duterte Trump. Hillary Trump, the main opposition, plus Duterte, the embarrassing intruder who signals violence that sustains both. And you know where we can see…

…ago, when a guy also called some policeman, sorry, shot some policeman. I don't know where. Then all the right-wingers with Trump, of course, on their head, exploded. Like, that's enough. That's too much. Will we now allow policemen to be freely shot?…

…elections. What happened here? What do I see as a problem based on all that I developed till now of these elections? Trump said he wants to make America great again. To what President Obama responded that America already is great. Here I respectfully…

…Obama responded that America already is great. Here I respectfully disagree with Obama. Can a country in which a person like Trump can become a president really be considered great? I mean, something is wrong here. The dangers of Trump presidency are…

…a person like Trump can become a president really be considered great? I mean, something is wrong here. The dangers of Trump presidency are obvious. He not only promises to nominate conservative judges to the Supreme Court, he not only mobilized the darkest…

…to Assange? Our good friend David Duke. So you see, strange games are being played here. So again, let's go on. Trump not only flouts basic rules of decency, he not only symbolizes the disintegration of basic ethical standards while advocating concern for…

…misery of ordinary people, he effectively promotes a brutal neoliberal agenda inclusive of tax breaks for the rich and so on and so on. Trump, but okay, now I will not celebrate Trump, don't be afraid. I think what we can say for Trump is that he is…

…brutal neoliberal agenda inclusive of tax breaks for the rich and so on and so on. Trump, but okay, now I will not celebrate Trump, don't be afraid. I think what we can say for Trump is that he is simply a vulgar opportunist. That's why, did you…

…and so on and so on. Trump, but okay, now I will not celebrate Trump, don't be afraid. I think what we can say for Trump is that he is simply a vulgar opportunist. That's why, did you notice this, from time to time he says something that even half…

…this, from time to time he says something that even half makes sense. For example, when Bernie Sanders endorsed Hillary. Trump made a wonderful statement. Remember, he said it's like somebody from Occupy Wall Street to endorse Lehman Brothers or whatever.…

…Trump made a wonderful statement. Remember, he said it's like somebody from Occupy Wall Street to endorse Lehman Brothers or whatever. But Trump is a vulgar opportunist, but he is still somehow a member of our species of humanity. He's just the low, vulgar…

…you can identify with them. Oh, they simply embody the nastiest part in me and so on and so on. But what Trump is definitely not is a... Let's presume in a naive way that this exists. A successful, productive, innovative capitalist. That's the tragedy.…

…definitely not is a... Let's presume in a naive way that this exists. A successful, productive, innovative capitalist. That's the tragedy. What Trump excels in is getting into bankruptcy and then making the taxpayers cover up his debts and so on and so on.…

…What Trump excels in is getting into bankruptcy and then making the taxpayers cover up his debts and so on and so on. Trump is not what he presents himself as, a genius capitalist or whatever. Liberals panicked. who are in panic because of Trump, dismiss…

…Trump is not what he presents himself as, a genius capitalist or whatever. Liberals panicked. who are in panic because of Trump, dismiss the idea that Trump's eventual victory can start a process out of which an authentic left would emerge. Their…

…the end the Nazis lost, but... Many things from Holocaust on happened in between. So the question is, are things the same with Trump? Is Trump a danger which should bring together a broad front in the same way that Hitler did, a front where decent…

…Nazis lost, but... Many things from Holocaust on happened in between. So the question is, are things the same with Trump? Is Trump a danger which should bring together a broad front in the same way that Hitler did, a front where decent conservatives and…

…of the radical left? Frankly, I doubt it. Now comes just a little bit of the problematic part. First, the fear that a Trump victory would have turned the USA into a fascist state I think simply doesn't hold. United States Incidentally, I have a problem…

…bad is emerging, you don't know what it is, so bum, let's call it fascism, and so on. No, no, no, I'm not saying Trump is better or whatever. I'm just saying Trump is not in that precise sense a fascist. First, I think, again, this doesn't... hold,…

…so bum, let's call it fascism, and so on. No, no, no, I'm not saying Trump is better or whatever. I'm just saying Trump is not in that precise sense a fascist. First, I think, again, this doesn't... hold, United States still have a relatively rich…

…they're direct Gleichschaltung, what we call, putting under the same global order, cannot be enacted. Where then does this fear of Trump come from? Its function, I claim, is to unify us all against Trump and thus to obfuscate the true political divisions…

…cannot be enacted. Where then does this fear of Trump come from? Its function, I claim, is to unify us all against Trump and thus to obfuscate the true political divisions which run between the left resuscitated by Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton, who…

…which includes old George Bush called warriors like Paul Wolfowitz and Saudi Arabian money. Second problem. The fact remains that Trump draws support from the same rage out of which Bernie Sanders mobilized his partisans. He is perceived by the majority…

…candidate. And what we should never forget is that popular rage is by definition free-floating. It can be redirected. Liberals who fear Trump victory, and now they got it, are not really, that's my crazy thesis. Now comes what you call now trigger warning.…

…it when you quoted that extremely racist Helderlin's poem against Browne Frauen, you know, here come my Browne Frauen. Liberals who fear Trump victory are not really afraid, I claim, of a radical rightist turn. What they are really afraid of is simply an…

…always stand on the side of the oppressed, and we must be independent, fighting for a real left exit to the crisis. Even if Trump causes a catastrophe for the ruling class, it will also be a catastrophe for us if we have not laid the foundations for…

…continue the inertia of the existing status quo, there will for sure be no leftist power. Many of the poor voters claim Trump speaks for them. Now you will say, how can they recognize themselves in the voice of a billionaire whose speculations and…

…recognize themselves in the voice of a billionaire whose speculations and failures are one of the causes of their misery? But when Trump supporters are denounced as white trash, it is easy to discern in this designation the fear of the lower classes that…

…the left, but precisely because she was too centrist and in this way failed to capture the anti-establishment revolt that sustained both Trump and Sanders. Trump reminded the people of the and that's for me the true achievement of Trump. He did it in a…

…because she was too centrist and in this way failed to capture the anti-establishment revolt that sustained both Trump and Sanders. Trump reminded the people of the and that's for me the true achievement of Trump. He did it in a wrong, proto-fascist…

…revolt that sustained both Trump and Sanders. Trump reminded the people of the and that's for me the true achievement of Trump. He did it in a wrong, proto-fascist way. But nonetheless, he reminded people of the half-forgotten reality of class struggle. Of…

…in the more moderate liberal left politics, which focuses on cultural issues and so on and so on. This left got from Trump its own message in its inverted true form. You know, the left forgot about class struggle, forgot, or... eliminated it by getting…

…not hurt him at all. Here you can see at best this leftist naive arrogance. You know, it's easy to make fun, idiot, Trump, this, that, and when they... Just remember how often Trump was proclaimed dead. He made this mistake when he attacked, I don't…

…best this leftist naive arrogance. You know, it's easy to make fun, idiot, Trump, this, that, and when they... Just remember how often Trump was proclaimed dead. He made this mistake when he attacked, I don't know, McCain as a fake hero. Or that, was it,…

…insulted his father or whatever. And people thought, oh, it's over with him. I remember a big title after one of these accidents, Trump just killed himself, he is dead. You know where they fell? They should have read Lacan a little bit more. Because they…

…themselves. The subliminal message to ordinary people of Trump's vulgarities was, I am really one of you, while ordinary Trump supporters felt constantly humiliated by the liberal elite's patronizing attitude towards them. so that's the tragedy the left paid…

…to the United States and I'm not saying that Bernie Sanders was a big revolutionary I'm just saying that behind the rise of Trump there is the failure of Bernie Sanders and And I sincerely admire Bernie Sanders' wife because I think it's the only chance…

…are the ideal, ideally get caught into right-wing populism. Without, without redirecting to us that anti-establishment popular support that Trump mobilized, there is no chance. for the left to achieve anything. So, again, in this sense, don't misunderstand me.…

…there is no chance. for the left to achieve anything. So, again, in this sense, don't misunderstand me. I'm not in any way for Trump, and certainly not, it amuses me, what I read a couple of days ago, that I endorse Trump because Melania, his wife, is…

…I'm not in any way for Trump, and certainly not, it amuses me, what I read a couple of days ago, that I endorse Trump because Melania, his wife, is Slovene, and I'm hoping for invitation to White House. Okay, I will tell you this. I can be bribed,…

…for invitation to White House. Okay, I will tell you this. I can be bribed, but not in such a cheap way, you know. If Trump says, why don't you get maybe not Trump Tower in New York, but Trump Tower in Chicago and so on, I might reflect upon it,…

…will tell you this. I can be bribed, but not in such a cheap way, you know. If Trump says, why don't you get maybe not Trump Tower in New York, but Trump Tower in Chicago and so on, I might reflect upon it, but not for a visit to White House. For…

…bribed, but not in such a cheap way, you know. If Trump says, why don't you get maybe not Trump Tower in New York, but Trump Tower in Chicago and so on, I might reflect upon it, but not for a visit to White House. For example, I even remember years…

…much better. But I claim it wouldn't solve the problem. She's Cold War establishment embodied. Four years later or more, we would have Trump back or somebody like Trump with a vengeance. What we got now is what? Maybe the price is too high. I can be…

…it wouldn't solve the problem. She's Cold War establishment embodied. Four years later or more, we would have Trump back or somebody like Trump with a vengeance. What we got now is what? Maybe the price is too high. I can be reconverted here. But I…

…now is what? Maybe the price is too high. I can be reconverted here. But I still have this idea that very soon Trump will encounter tensions in his own Republican Party. Like Ronald Reagan already was a master of this double game. You know how Ronald…

…we need the support of those stupid fundamentalist jerks and so on. I don't think that in today's state of things, Trump can play this game. The tension, which is more and more constitutive of Republican Party, between the business more modern oriented…

…have to explode. Already now, There was, I say this with great irony, of course, there was one mega-achievement of Donald Trump. He single-handedly practically ruined the Republican Party. Admit it, it's not so bad. Okay, second thing. Now, with loss of…

…Republican Party. Admit it, it's not so bad. Okay, second thing. Now, with loss of Hillary, so there is a hope that when Trump will not be able to deliver, he will have to do something with this anti-establishment rage. He will not deliver. There is a…

…That's what great politicians learn and are able to do. So that's the absolute limit of my ha-ha-ha support for Donald Trump. He's disgust embodied. My hope is this one. Can his crazy victory trigger a certain process of political renewal without risking…

…kind of lexicon of reflection that I urge upon all of us, which is what it means to have gone too far? We or Trump? All of us. It's just too far. We went too far. There's no retraction possible, hypothetically. There's no beating a path or finding a…

…chance of new world war. And paradoxically, I think, I wonder if you agree here that Hillary is more of a cold warrior than Donald Trump. I would be much more... I would have been much more afraid of her as a president. You know why I'm afraid of it?…

…to read together Lacan's TV. where he writes about the jouissance of the other and how racism is precisely, and since Donald Trump is such a TV, an effect of TV, television, we would want to consider what Lacan says about imagining through the circuitry…

…a quickly composed book. What I mean by culture? No, no, no. I'm not trying to squeeze out. I'm not making any. I'm not like Trump. I'm not telling you it will not be a wall but just a fence or whatever. No, no, no. Although people accused me that I…

…telling you it will not be a wall but just a fence or whatever. No, no, no. Although people accused me that I was for Trump, which I was not, because I secretly hope that I will be invited to White House. We will talk about this. Yeah, yeah. No, no,…

…No, no, no. It's that... I reject, and this brought me also many enemies, I reject what I call very ironically the Brexit Trump leftists in Europe, those who think European Union is an organ of international capital. Forget it. We should all do our own…

…that I heard of United Kingdom. So now I'm going to be nasty to you. You brought up the T word. You brought up the Trump word. You, before the election... No longer the F word, but the T word. The T word. It's the great euphemism of Brooklyn. You,…

…election... No longer the F word, but the T word. The T word. It's the great euphemism of Brooklyn. You, if not endorsed Trump, you said that Trump was the preferable candidate to Clinton. And as you know, in making that judgment, you put yourself on…

…F word, but the T word. The T word. It's the great euphemism of Brooklyn. You, if not endorsed Trump, you said that Trump was the preferable candidate to Clinton. And as you know, in making that judgment, you put yourself on the other side to... The…

…Leninist position that we sharpen the contradictions and there might be some interesting revolutionary possibilities that could come out of a Trump win. But I say to you that that calculation of risk and opportunity, you came out with a very different…

…it and I totally allow for the possibility that I am wrong. But I nonetheless think that, first, this absolute liberal scare of Trump is part of this liberal blackmail. We are the only chance. No, the election was screwed up the moment Hillary got rid…

…to think that she has to move more to the center. What she didn't take into account that a very strong percentage of Trump votes, as far as I can judge, were people who were genuinely sustained by some kind of abstract, of course not directly leftist,…

…but nonetheless anti-establishment rage. So that Hillary's politics enabled... them to sustain the vision that the only anti-establishment candidate is Trump, and also many Sanders voters were disappointed. I think that if Hillary were to take the risk to move…

…to move a little bit more to the left... then he would have had much greater chances to get even some of the Trump vote. Actually, if you look at the Democrat platform, it was one of the most progressive Democrat platforms that anyone has fought on…

…and so on, they all went to Hillary basically and so on. Hillary is the Cold War. It's much more when they say, ooh, Trump is a madman, new... New atomic war. I fear much more Hillary here. We don't have Hillary. We have Trump. So the madman is…

…much more when they say, ooh, Trump is a madman, new... New atomic war. I fear much more Hillary here. We don't have Hillary. We have Trump. So the madman is in charge. Yeah, but he's not a direct man. I see him, I will put it like this. I see him…

…sounding like a terrible latte drinking liberal there. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is a disgust at the blonde beast of Trump. I totally agree with you here, what you are implying, that if I hate something, is this liberal as in front of a snake,…

…with you here, what you are implying, that if I hate something, is this liberal as in front of a snake, total fear, Trump, and so on and so on. Let's be brutally, coldly... Trump is an absolutely disgusting opportunist. He is obviously now looking for…

…is this liberal as in front of a snake, total fear, Trump, and so on and so on. Let's be brutally, coldly... Trump is an absolutely disgusting opportunist. He is obviously now looking for his way. As I already mentioned, I think, did you notice,…

…For Palestinians. Then the Zionist backlash two days later, he said Jerusalem is the eternal capital of Israel, whatever. I don't fear Trump. I fear much more, you know, all those Republicans for whom Trump was too much. are now the Trumpist power coming…

…is the eternal capital of Israel, whatever. I don't fear Trump. I fear much more, you know, all those Republicans for whom Trump was too much. are now the Trumpist power coming back, and I fear of their influence on Trump's politics. But don't you...…

…are extremely dangerous. And what I was so afraid of in Hillary's position was this. Okay, we are not as bad as Trump. We played safely. No, that's not enough. We need a brutal awakening. So I'm sincerely ready to abolish... to apologize. Maybe I'm…

…We need a brutal awakening. So I'm sincerely ready to abolish... to apologize. Maybe I'm well aware of all those horrors around Trump, even more than all those, how do you call them, white supremacists and so on. But you're making the calculation that for…

…the more some crazy left-wingers claim that I am, I don't know. There are even tools like I'm obviously a CIA agent. Yeah, Trump of theory. Yeah, no longer Elvis of theory, but Trump of theory. Yeah. Okay, but I'm almost tempted to say cynically, if I'm…

…don't know. There are even tools like I'm obviously a CIA agent. Yeah, Trump of theory. Yeah, no longer Elvis of theory, but Trump of theory. Yeah. Okay, but I'm almost tempted to say cynically, if I'm Trump of theory, where are my billions? My God, you…

…of theory. Yeah, no longer Elvis of theory, but Trump of theory. Yeah. Okay, but I'm almost tempted to say cynically, if I'm Trump of theory, where are my billions? My God, you know what I mean? I'm more and more excluded. Now the only place where…

…of months ago, a black guy shot a couple of white policemen, mostly white, I don't even know if they're all white, and then Trump and all our friends exploded. No, that's the limit, and so on. No, this is, of course, a deplorable act and so on. But…

…really sad. This is why I claim there is a serious option. That's my pessimism. What if something doesn't happen? Not Donald Trump, but leftist alternatives to him. What we are approaching is what? Well, as always, when you are at a loss, Hollywood has…

…right, off Obama's record. So how true is that? Biden would have won, possibly. But was this really an anti-establishment victory for Trump? I mean, frankly, it was probably white suburban soccer moms who put him in. No, no, no. I know that this…

…his constituency in Vermont, it's precisely those, many of them white farmers, half-poor people, who are usually the ideal ground for Trump. And that's the true miracle. The only chance for the left is to get those, those anti-establishment figures, I mean…

…like from Wall Street to Occupy Wall Street. Incidentally, this is the only moment when I authentically sympathize with Trump. You remember after Bernie Sanders supported Hillary, he said this is almost like somebody from Occupy Wall Street supporting…

…don't know an answer to your question. Grab the mic. Say something. I just think we're at a horrific, horrific moment. Donald Trump is a fascist. Professor Zizek's statement that he's just an opportunist and not a fascist I think is outrageous and very…

…you said. Even if you belong to Bob Awaken, you have spoken now as a liberal in despair. Oh my God, catastrophe happens. No, Trump is a symptom. He is a symptom of what is wrong with Hillary, with Democratic Party. Our first act should be, what did we…

…we will just, even if in the next elections Democrats win, we will just slowly be approaching the catastrophe. So my point is not, no, Trump is not so bad, and so on and so on. My point is that the danger should not... Okay, I'll put it this way.…

…Trump is not so bad, and so on and so on. My point is that the danger should not... Okay, I'll put it this way. Trump is the symptom. So if you just fight Trump, you do what? Doctors call symptom healing, you know. For example, you have some disease…

…on. My point is that the danger should not... Okay, I'll put it this way. Trump is the symptom. So if you just fight Trump, you do what? Doctors call symptom healing, you know. For example, you have some disease and you feel pain. Okay, you take a…

…feel pain, but you don't cure the disease. And this, I want to... But this is a plea for a structural analysis of which Trump is a sort of epiphenomenon of something. No, but it's much more radical. I think Trump is, if I may use Chomsky's term, who…

…a plea for a structural analysis of which Trump is a sort of epiphenomenon of something. No, but it's much more radical. I think Trump is, if I may use Chomsky's term, who he took it from, of course, but... No, no, no, it's not criticism of Chomsky.…

…will roll me into a ball. One or the other. Hi, this is a more general question, so it's not on the topic of Trump or anything. But it's relating to this contradiction that a lot of, I guess, like, intellectuals and academics have, and you, like, sort…

…both are worse. Not both are equally bad, but both are worse. And I think it's something like this here. On the one hand, Trump is... I mean, the ideas that he stands for, all the white supremacy people, blah, blah, blah, it's just much lower than at…

…the official ideology of Democratic Party and all those LGBT plus groups and so on that stand behind it and so on. So Trump is worse. But at the same time, in Zofara's Trump stance, although a bad change for some kind of political dynamics, Clinton is…

…LGBT plus groups and so on that stand behind it and so on. So Trump is worse. But at the same time, in Zofara's Trump stance, although a bad change for some kind of political dynamics, Clinton is worse in the sense that he's simply for the status quo.…

…with I'm sure she will win Hillary's victory. Nothing will happen. It's the status quo, which means that probably in a couple of years Trump will be again here. I was not, as it was misrepresented, for Trump. I mean, it makes me throw up. Yeah, and let…

…status quo, which means that probably in a couple of years Trump will be again here. I was not, as it was misrepresented, for Trump. I mean, it makes me throw up. Yeah, and let me interrupt and comment and say that the Internet has been putting a lot…

…you will be lynched with me. Okay. We'll hang from the same tree. That we should, without in any case voting for Trump, we should just coldly appreciate this situation. Maybe I'm wrong. I can even be convinced here. But what if Hillary wins? Nothing…

…sexual freedoms, blah, blah. But it's part of the same package with aggressive foreign policy and so on and so on. While with Trump. disgusting as he is. First, I think this fear that practically he will introduce fascism or what. He cannot do it. United…

…situation of 1933 where also many leftists thought it's better Hitler that at least the front will be clear. No, no. Trump cannot do this. Trump is not simply a neo-fascist. He's a radical, often confused, opportunist. He often, sometimes, even said things…

…also many leftists thought it's better Hitler that at least the front will be clear. No, no. Trump cannot do this. Trump is not simply a neo-fascist. He's a radical, often confused, opportunist. He often, sometimes, even said things which made sense. For…

…certain point he said, but we should show a little bit more opening for Palestinian side also to see. Then, in a typical Trump way, when there was a Jewish backlash, he said, no, no, no, Jerusalem is the eternal capital of Israel, all that stuff. He's…

…who fell into this game, oh, Hillary is nonetheless the lesser evil desperately in this situation, that they secretly know that Trump means change. He is a voice of those enraged disappointment which could be maybe redirected that they are really horrified…

…U.S. I know it's a radical change, but it's not good. No, but I'm nonetheless saying that this fear of, again, I repeat it, Trump is disgusting. But this fear of Trump that it will mean new fascism, I don't share this fear. I think he's really a very…

…it's not good. No, but I'm nonetheless saying that this fear of, again, I repeat it, Trump is disgusting. But this fear of Trump that it will mean new fascism, I don't share this fear. I think he's really a very opportunist... I think it means…

…radical, but a serious, even social democratic force. And that's, for me, the tragedy of Hillary. Her greatest act will not be defeating Trump. That was easy to do, but defeating the threat of this alternative Bernie Sanders and so on. Oh, I see. I see.…

…today offered to women. Okay, my point is this one. It's not an ideal example of this, the couple Donald Trump-Hillary. Donald Trump is the ultimate, isn't he a perpetual adolescent? What he does is, he just explodes as this, well, Hillary is this…

…while I'll do the serious plot. Right, right, right, right, right. So, in other words, I like to see this couple, Hillary and Trump, as a new version of Trump. sexual difference of gender roles emerging in late capitalism. And they are not only bad for…

…Right, right, right, right, right. So, in other words, I like to see this couple, Hillary and Trump, as a new version of Trump. sexual difference of gender roles emerging in late capitalism. And they are not only bad for the men, but also bad for the…

…can do better than men. There is a political triad which renders perfectly this predicament, I think. Hillary, Duterte, Trump. Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are today's ultimate political couple. Trump is precisely, following Badiou's diagnosis, the eternal…

…is a political triad which renders perfectly this predicament, I think. Hillary, Duterte, Trump. Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are today's ultimate political couple. Trump is precisely, following Badiou's diagnosis, the eternal adolescent, a reckless hedonist…

…this predicament, I think. Hillary, Duterte, Trump. Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are today's ultimate political couple. Trump is precisely, following Badiou's diagnosis, the eternal adolescent, a reckless hedonist prone to irrational, brutal outbursts that…

…into one, I think this would be the ideal image of the politician today, a person called Hillary Duterte, middle name Trump. All three together. As for the, now comes next problematic more philosophical point, as for the underlying form of subjectivity,…

…only that things are prohibited. The prohibition itself is prohibited. And I will make a jump now. I improvised a lot today. Trump is precisely violating this prohibition. For example, he tried to prove, I was quite shocked, in one of his TV interviews…

…know. The vulgarity is not in doing this. The vulgarity is in even saying this. The same was with Hillary Clinton. Once Donald Trump made fun of her because she had to disappear for three minutes, probably taking a break for the toilet. And Trump said,…

…Once Donald Trump made fun of her because she had to disappear for three minutes, probably taking a break for the toilet. And Trump said, I don't want even to imagine where she went, it's disgusting, and so on. No, sorry, we all do this. The disgusting…

…where she went, it's disgusting, and so on. No, sorry, we all do this. The disgusting thing is to mention this publicly. And Trump can do it, which is why he is, for me, one of the symbols of this, let's call it, disintegration of ethical substance.…

…and women. This was the question. So men looking at women and women looking at men. Yes. And I have this example of Trump and Hillary Clinton. So is it correct? Did I understand you and you correctly that when Trump is looking at Hillary Clinton, He…

…And I have this example of Trump and Hillary Clinton. So is it correct? Did I understand you and you correctly that when Trump is looking at Hillary Clinton, He knows that God no longer exists. And if Hillary is looking at Trump, that God exists? No,…

…you correctly that when Trump is looking at Hillary Clinton, He knows that God no longer exists. And if Hillary is looking at Trump, that God exists? No, but incidentally, I know this not through Melania. I know people who know people who know people who…

…that God exists? No, but incidentally, I know this not through Melania. I know people who know people who know people who know Trump and Hillary. And I can guarantee you something. Trump is an atheist. I'm not saying he had to look at Hillary Clinton to…

…not through Melania. I know people who know people who know people who know Trump and Hillary. And I can guarantee you something. Trump is an atheist. I'm not saying he had to look at Hillary Clinton to see this. You see, that's the great thing that…

…atheist. I'm not saying he had to look at Hillary Clinton to see this. You see, that's the great thing that Trump did. Are we aware that he single-handedly ruined the conservative Christian moral majority? He's an obscene consumerist. He's a nightmare for…

…ruined the conservative Christian moral majority? He's an obscene consumerist. He's a nightmare for them. And I think, I mean, Trump is a nightmare, but I think that he wasn't the worst. Look, do you remember those Republican preliminary debates? The…

…where there is really something absolutely monstrous. Sorry, what I want to say is that I know what is problematic there with this Trump versus Hillary, and I don't read Badiou as giving a general theory of sexual difference to that, so on and so on,…

…access to this room, you have to swear an official, how do you call it, affidavit statement that you will vote for Trump. Listen, okay, this is just introductory chatter, but... I really think it's so suspicious, this liberal fear, my God, Trump, the end…

…vote for Trump. Listen, okay, this is just introductory chatter, but... I really think it's so suspicious, this liberal fear, my God, Trump, the end of the world, it will be the end. Listen, first... There is a mega achievement of Trump. Are you aware…

…fear, my God, Trump, the end of the world, it will be the end. Listen, first... There is a mega achievement of Trump. Are you aware that he single-handedly ruined the Republican Party? Because this big establishment wing, they are now all, you remember…

…Donald Rumsfeld advisor, Paul Wolfowitz. and that how is it called that neocon crystal something I was told they both turn against Trump gently they are yeah yeah yeah yeah they both did it banks are against and even the religious right okay Trump is…

…turn against Trump gently they are yeah yeah yeah yeah they both did it banks are against and even the religious right okay Trump is a total opportunist but I think he's just a cheap guy opportunist improvising but It's clear also that if there is a…

…opportunist but I think he's just a cheap guy opportunist improvising but It's clear also that if there is a place where Trump doesn't belong, it's Christian conservatives, my God. It's ridiculous, you know. So I think from what I learned, there is now a…

…it's Christian conservatives, my God. It's ridiculous, you know. So I think from what I learned, there is now a core of Trump supporters who are really lower class impoverished people and who are simply pushed by a kind of anti-establishment rage and there…

…The only, I literally mean it, the only path to a new left in the United States goes through some at least of the Trump supporters. And also, listen, he's disgusting, believe it to me. I can do an analysis, but two times I sympathized with him. First,…

…but two times I sympathized with him. First, you remember when he supported, when, sorry, Bernie Sanders supported Hillary, Trump said, you remember his reaction, it's like somebody from Occupy Wall Street supporting Lehman Brothers, I mean. Sorry, it…

…it, but the details from the presidential, whatever, dialogue, confrontation, when Hillary was going on how she's worried what will happen if Trump wins. And Trump basically answered something like, Yes, you will be in jail if I win. I mean, and a friend…

…details from the presidential, whatever, dialogue, confrontation, when Hillary was going on how she's worried what will happen if Trump wins. And Trump basically answered something like, Yes, you will be in jail if I win. I mean, and a friend of mine who…

…know. It wasn't. And you know, like, I'm sorry if I repeat an old joke which I already used, but when people talk against Trump and so on, of course he is vulgar to the end. But listen, you remember, I know I quoted it here, that Madeleine Albright…

…acceptable price. Sorry, but for me, this is more obscene than all Trumpisms together. The last, then I give you the works. Trump did make quite a Lacanian achievement, this illusion of illusion, you know. Normal people, we have a problem, I am not yet…

…I am not yet there, probably I will be, that if you wear a wig you try to make it look like real hair. But Trump achieved the opposite. He has real hair which looks like a wig, you know. A very Lacanian point, admitted, you know. Okay, stop, please.…

…accused as politically incorrect. Ageism. They call it ageism. Sorry, please. I talk too much. Please. I wanted to pick you up on Trump. Because I entirely take the points that you are saying. But it seems to me a very white perspective. I really do not…

…the number of dead black bodies that might result. And really, is that acceptable? I totally... First, let me put it bluntly. Trump is a totally disgusting person, trash. He is the white trash. And, okay, let me improvise for five minutes. He's... Even…

…time for him, he wanted to demonstrate how his wife, my own compatriot, Melania, who is Slovene, you know, this is why Trump is so popular in Slovenia, you know, like, we Slovenes practically occupy the White House, if you mean. He wanted to illustrate…

…with Hillary. Wasn't there a round table TV, whatever, where Hillary probably for the toilet had to leave for a minute? And then Trump commented it and said, where did she go now? It's disgusting and so on. No, sorry, we all go to toilets with feet.…

…at. It's not only... the blacks is that now recently also the darkest American civil society movements are getting mobilized for Trump. Open racist white supremacists and so on. It's an entire movement which is exploding now. And it's good that you mention…

…had a clear split, even in very legalistic terms you can put it, between progressive and reactionary. The reaction even of Donald Trump was, here the game stops. When people are attacking police, the very embodiment of law and order, the game is over. But…

…so on. But more about Badiou, again, later or this evening, because he does something which brings us back to Hillary Trump and so on. Something wonderfully simple, but I think basically correct. He claims that Today in this late capitalist consumerism…

…for them. So I was thinking about it, isn't it this what we have at its purest? now in the American election. Donald Trump is this eternal adolescent, cannot control himself, and Hillary is that type of a manipulating woman. And I was so glad when I…

…to conclude this line, I think an ideal politician today, let's put together three names, would be somebody called Hillary Duterte Trump. Duterte, you know, the president of Philippines. Oh, yeah. Who also, it's open, in a way there is almost something…

…calling for direct murders and so on, killing and so on and so on. And you see, you have this tendency, even with Trump, you know, all these games he's playing of... I cannot tell you, basically, he's even flirting with the revolution. He's saying, I…