…this is a joke about the dangers of professional thinking. The idea that the philosopher's head is in the clouds, think Aristophanes, whereas they're ignorant of practical problems in the life world. Now, that's not my approach to the joke. I think what…

…character discovers things through his interaction but he's um actually in the symposium the The Socratic position is very different from Aristophanes' position, which is that you learn from your love, and it was homoerotic love, that the man falls in love…