…means. But we, you give the deep experience that's the thing you know. But you just do it and it's very dire thing. This is sense of recitation. Many, like shaliputra, buddha shaliputra compared many, many learned scholars to Buddhism. Shaliputra compared

…shaliputra I use hundred thousand of various skillful means, such as different interpretation, indications, explanations, illustrations. This not by reasoning. Shaliputra, that the law is to be found. It is beyond the pale of reason and must be learnt from…