…for the people. For you know, people, contemporary people you may say maybe before I finish my lecture, let me talk more about Kumazawa Zenji. I rather, you know angry with him because I was fooled by him for maybe more than 30 years. And I found out…

…seven days at a hedge in the snow and we are you know very serious practice because we are so young. One morning late Kumazawa Zenji at that time he was kannin, he was director of eheichi monastery came to zendo and gave us Zen story. He said: do you…

…maybe it is comic, but for us it is very real and serious thing when I was young, or when I was at their age, Kumazawa Zenji, you know Kumazawa Zenji, at that time he was cunning in sesshin. He gave us a talk when we are tired, it was Saturday or…

…but for us it is very real and serious thing when I was young, or when I was at their age, Kumazawa Zenji, you know Kumazawa Zenji, at that time he was cunning in sesshin. He gave us a talk when we are tired, it was Saturday or Thursday and he…