…there were one more things, one more thing which I wanted to tell you but I forgot, and this will be tomorrow. Perhaps Katagiri Sensei will continue this lecture, so he may tell you. You know, I thought it was something which is very difficult to tell…

…as they are. You will have a perfect wisdom at that time. That is why I told you my way of zazen. Now as Katagiri Sensei told you last night, you know you are awakened from the dream by dream. You know he means usual, our usual life, our usual…

…things happen just by chance, you know all the things happen just by chance when we don't know. We say things happen by chance. Katagiri Sensei and I you know discussed very hard about that point what should we do? We had no answer for that. It is not…

…is no idea of Buddhism. What is the truth will be always our, you know main point is what will be the truth. As Katagiri Sensei said, you know, last night the building should be upright to the sky and we should sit on a black cushion without moving,…

…moving, so that we can you know, grow to the sky. That is, you know how you practice zazen, how I practice zazen, how Katagiri Sensei practices zazen as a priest as a layman. You know there is no difference in virtue whether you are a layman or a…