…including me, think he puts an extremely good case. It's a very well-argued book. The most recent defector from materialism is Christoph Koch, K-O-C-H, at the Salk Institute in San Diego, who was one of the most hardcore materialists, and he came out in…

…which is one of the biggest heresies in materialism because evolution is supposed to be quite purposeless. And recently, Christoph Koch, K-O-C-H, who was Francis Crick's principal colleague in working on consciousness, came out six months ago in favor of…

…will change depending on who I'm speaking to. So I have certain points of emphasis when I'm talking to my friend, Christoph Koch. If Rupert were here and we were having dinner together, I would have different points of emphasis, but I would not be…

…consciousness. So he too declared for panpsychism. And surprisingly, one of Francis Crick's most immediate collaborators, Christoph Koch, who's a neuroscientist, who's a very hardcore atheist materialist type, dogmatic skeptic about psychic phenomena, has come…

…that the facts of the matter force one to those conclusions. Most recently, one of the most hardcore materialist neuroscientists, Christoph Koch, came out in favor of panpsychism in an article in Scientific American last year. And it's now a kind of…

…about this panpsychist argument in the present climate is that most panpsychists who are around today, Straussen, Goff, Tononi, Koch, the neuroscientist who used to work with Francis Crick, who used to be an absolutely hardline reductionist materialist, has…