…that if you imagine the mind as not bounded they actually have more hallucination-like experiences. I did not expect to prove Julian Jaynes correct, but it was kind of cool. Well, there's a whole bunch of teenagers who would applaud because they all read…

…Jaynes correct, but it was kind of cool. Well, there's a whole bunch of teenagers who would applaud because they all read Julian Jaynes when they're 18 and go, this is marvellous. There's a lot of Julian Jaynes that's a little peculiar. I mean, he says…

…teenagers who would applaud because they all read Julian Jaynes when they're 18 and go, this is marvellous. There's a lot of Julian Jaynes that's a little peculiar. I mean, he says something a bit more dramatic than that, doesn't he? Yes, I know. He sort…

…of the universe and history of our planet where it was just all in the subjective dark. There was nothing going on. Julian Jaynes, I think, in his 1970s book called The Origin of Consciousness and the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind. I bought it. It's…