…a New Testament scholar who I really like has picked up on this in relation to the resurrection of Jesus. He's called Dale Allison. He's a professor of the New Testament at Princeton University. And he wrote a very long book considering not just the…

…the materiality of their body had become some kind of spiritual presence or energy that was perceived as light. And Dale Allison wonders whether that's a way of understanding the resurrection appearances of Jesus and why they have these different qualities.…