…sort of an angel helped me when my car broke down type of story. We're dealing here with a cosmic phenomenon. And what Aquinas and these other thinkers saw was that angels were minds or intelligences lower than the divine level but higher than the human…

…about the other species is that I think all of them are open to the divine in their own way. You know, when Aquinas was talking about the developments of plants and animals, he would say that they're actualizing their form, growing up and becoming their…

…without any question. But Rupert says that if you substitute the word quanta for angels, you're in the same ballpark with what Aquinas is talking about. So I think it's quite stunning also that 21st century postmodern science is talking in terms that are…

…this book together. Wow. Quanta, and that is the term that they used for angel? Is that what you were saying? At one point Aquinas is discussing how angels move and it's not the kind of thing most people think about in the modern world. And what's so…

…all. Now, that is one of the most paradoxical features of quantum theory, and to find an exact parallel for that discussion in Aquinas was, for me, mind-blowing. It was what, in fact, caused us to entitle the book The Physics of Angels. Most of it isn't…

…vision of the universe, so that... I mean, what's interesting about your choice of the word, I don't know if you've ever looked up Aquinas on the subject of habitus, But I mean, there is a, you know, I suspect that you come, I suspect you have a more…

…suspect that you come, I suspect you have a more respectable intellectual ancestry than you would like to believe. I'm actually against Aquinas, I'm in favor of him. Yes, fine, because I mean, there is, I mean, you know, the idea that what we're…

…humanity were not part of nature. So that being so, there's a sense in which everything, including even the human reason, as Aquinas thought, is itself in an important sense natural. and all of these were things that aquinas talks about under the heading…

…Protestants, had gone along with this mechanical view of nature. They hadn't opposed it. Roman Catholics did, because they believed in Aquinas' doctrine of form and a much sounder analysis of the nature of nature, in my opinion. But Protestants, on the…

…that were kind of cosmic archetypes of consciousness. So there were nine levels of angels based in three areas. Is this in Aquinas' hierarchy? This is in Aquinas. It's in Dionysius the Areopagite, who was a sixth century Syrian monk. who had a huge…

…of consciousness. So there were nine levels of angels based in three areas. Is this in Aquinas' hierarchy? This is in Aquinas. It's in Dionysius the Areopagite, who was a sixth century Syrian monk. who had a huge influence on Christian theology. As…