…you pick it up say hi jim this is your telephone telepathy test um one of your two callers is on the line Press one for Andrew, press two for Helen. And then you have to guess which one you think it is out of the two people you've chosen. And as…

…forgotten for years. present, completely present. And my interest in this, uh, was triggered really by the experience with my own brother, Andrew, who died a couple of years ago, having had several years of severe dementia. Um, and when I visited him in,…

…recently which made it much clearer to me. It's called The Sword of the Lord. It's written by a guy called Andrew Himes who was raised Southern Baptist. Seven of his cousins are Southern Baptist ministers, his father, his grandfather. His grandfather who…