…of fate you were talking about. The Greeks thought of fate as the one thing that you couldn't go beyond. You know, even Zeus himself was terrified of the fates, the moira, and the idea of not being able to pass beyond the physical body, not being…

…and all that, that's just nonsense. They were eating mushrooms. Evidence is thin, but there is some evidence in Ab Cook's book, Zeus, there's a picture of Triptolemius, who is a figure in the Demeter mysteries holding what seems very clearly to be a…

…concept of fate. You were talking about the greek thought of fate as the one thing that you couldn't go beyond. You know, even Zeus himself was terrified of the faith, the moira and the idea of not being able to pass beyond the physical body, not being…

…lie spread about the dionysian religion. Well, the story of the birth of Dionysius is very interesting because his father was Zeus, the hidden, higher, all father, analogous to God the father and Christianity. But his mother was similla. And in some…

…of Thebes. But in other versions, she's herself some kind of a goddess. Anyway, she was one of these many affairs that Zeus had. He was always impregnating women and bearing children. In the 8th month of her pregnancy, she was struck by lightning and…

…and bearing children. In the 8th month of her pregnancy, she was struck by lightning and killed. And she was very dear to Zeus. And when he came upon her dead, he immediately performed a caesarean operation and he cut open his thigh and he put the…