…earth are going to begin to reflect that. I think it's useful also to look at this in terms of the model that Stan Grof has put out, which relates also generally to the process of psycho spiritual transformation, which you can see in all kinds of…

…how quickly we develop into a mature community able to address this issue is entirely with us, I think. And certainly people like Stan Grof and others have worked valiantly to keep this kind of thing alive. But, my God, you can count them on the fingers…

…I was groping for the Hebrew but not finding it. Yes. Yeah, just want to follow up on. That question a little bit. Stan Grof describes LSD as a nonspecific amplifier. And by that he means it amplifies what's already existing in the psyche. And he uses…

…how quickly we develop into a mature community able to address this issue is entirely with us, I think. And certainly people like Stan Grof and others have worked valiantly to keep this kind of alive. But, my God, you can count them on the fingers of…

…about meat and surgery and excrement and this and that, and then I just say, you know, it's time for a JDev. Now, Stan Grof would say you should go through these things and that this is important for your process. But, you know, I'm squeamish and enjoy…