…to this conversation I'll be back with a few of my own observations about the palenque experience, but first I think we hear what Mateo and bill have to say so that I don't tell some of the same stories. However, before I turn on the recording that…

…Mateo and bill have to say so that I don't tell some of the same stories. However, before I turn on the recording that Mateo made of their conversation I'd first like to read part of the message on a little postcard that Terrence McKenna handed to me…

…REST of their stories you'll also find both enlightening and entertaining. Hello there welcome once again to the psychedelic salon. This is Mateo here, and I'm sitting in a wonderful natural setting with my very good friend known as wild bill I like to…

…a lot with Alex grant and stuff like that. So welcome to the salon bill it's really good to have you here. Hey Mateo, how did you come about getting to the seminars, the entheobotany seminars in the first place? What brought you there? Interesting story:…

…lot of what you said has value for the listeners. I hope everybody gets something through the experience. So uh this is uh Mateo and wild bill signing off from the psychedelic salon and Lorenzo will probably add in some notes and uh anything we missed…

…right we'll fix his wagon all right thank you, and uh keep the faith. That's the final word from wild bill. This is Mateo signing off. You're listening to the psychedelic salon where people are changing their lives one thought at a time. Now if you'll…

…no old bold psychonauts. I think that even though we just heard some great stories about a few wild psychedelic experiences that both Mateo and wild bill will tell you that the reason they are still here is that neither one of them ever pushed the…

…the default world during the days and weeks that follow a sensible psychedelic journey. Now as we just heard both uh bill and Mateo thought and and I agree with them that the really important part of conferences like the ones in palenque come not from…

…But right now I don't know much about what was said because charlie and I had all kinds of other things to talk about and Mateo came back by to see charlie and it turned into another late night. While I didn't turn on my recorder and record any of…

…prestigious San Diego book awards ceremony, matt palomary's memoir won first place in the spiritual books category. Now to be honest when Mateo first told me that his book had been selected as a finalist in that category, I kind of groaned inside because…

…in human consciousness that is now taking place just below the surface of our everyday affairs. So a big well done to Mateo. You're doing a terrific job of moving these topics into the mainstream. Bravo. And I have another bit of exciting news,…

…was done on the little cassette recorder that matt palomari had with him at the time and hey thanks again for the recording Mateo. So I had to cut out some of the audience parts where I couldn't amplify them satisfactorily and if you happen to be…

…well, screw them. Who needs nitpickers like that? And for full disclosure, I guess you should probably know that my writing coach is Mateo, who you've heard here in the salon several times. So don't say I didn't warn you. Anyway, the point I can't seem…

…As you know, ayahuasca has been discussed here in the salon in over a dozen programs, including number 89, in which my friend Mateo discusses ayahuasca diet, rituals and powers. But this is one of the few McKenna talks I found in which he goes on at…

…personal experience with the vine, it might be best for you to not lock onto anything you've heard from me, Terrence, Mateo, or anyone else about it, because just like burning man, it's something that is almost incomprehensible until you experience it for…

…now, Matt Palomarie, has sometimes been mistakenly called an urban shaman. And even by me, I must admit. And I'm sorry for that, Mateo, but he is always very quick to set the record straight. Matt, or Matteo, as his friends often call him, is a longtime…

…smile and basically said, say goodbye to Matt, because he ain't coming back, you know. And sure enough, kind of. I came back, Mateo. And, you know, it's ongoing. You know that while we're talking about the experience in the jungle, and we did cover this…

…available in dvd, and he sent me a copy along with the following letter. Dear Lorenzo, finally Tryptozane is done. I have you and Mateo to thank for many of the changes I made. It is now available to the general public at Amazon, or better yet, through…

…it alone in your apartment. So enough lecturing, and my apologies to Max and to all the other saloners who have taken issue with Mateo and myself over this issue. But as a dear friend of mine once said, we do know what we know. Enough said. Well, I'm…

…that I'm definitely on the mend. I've even begun to get some of my energy back, thanks in no small part to my friend Mateo, who just returned from the jungle with some magical plants and medicines to help me on my way. Also, I want to thank Terry…