…use of LSD and mescaline. Those seem to be largely explorations of human dimensions, psychoanalytic and the collective unconscious of Jung, Dimensions of historical resonance and that sort of thing but there was not the prevalence of the extraterrestrial theme…

…the concern of surrealism is nothing less than the pictorial representation of the contents of the unconscious as described by and Freud and Jung Jung. So what it in in a way what? What we're talking about here is not so much the culture Shaping power…

…concern of surrealism is nothing less than the pictorial representation of the contents of the unconscious as described by and Freud and Jung Jung. So what it in in a way what? What we're talking about here is not so much the culture Shaping power of…

…human history which would give memories I would think of them as memories in the collective memory through morphic resonance. Jung would call them collective archetypes in the collective unconscious, things which are built into our past, our memory that have…

…is just to somehow disabuse yourself of the habit of. Over emphasizing something by perceiving the value in the other. You know Jung psychoanalyzed god. This was bold I think it was the last book before he died. Answer to job: he psychoanalyzed god he…

…Ganges, and the Ganges can take it and you can't always hold it. Thank you that's exactly what I meant at the beginning, where Jung cycle in like god and found a fractal mixture of good and evil. And then of course we see it everywhere in nature and…

…Well somehow the modalities of both must be preserved in a higher union. This is the union of opposites, the coincidencia positorum that Jung and alchemy is all about. Well, I really see, I mean now that we're on to this metaphor what I've really been…

…status of these entities is what I would think of as the jungian position, and to demonstrate it I'll simply quote Jung on the subject of sprites and elementals he calls them autonomous fragments of psychic energy which have temporarily escaped from the…

…earth spirit of this culture and an earth spirit of that culture as in the Diffusion of mythology there is what Jung called archetypes that just suggest that different layers in a spectrum of reality or particularness or individuality of these things, well…

…with matter, the extraction of energy from matter well then is this whispering from the demon artificers a phrase which Jung uses the whisperings of the demon artificers have led us into technological self expression and perhaps indeed into self expression…

…we all have the experience of seeing a kind of coordination among events in different spheres and different times that Jung called synchronicity. We could say that there are kind of space time patterns in experience that defy ordinary explanation. And…

…that as well it's also about how your surroundings relate with you. And here this brings up the whole issue of Jung and synchronicity and how the relationship between psychedelic experiences and synchronicity are of great importance and we should be attuned.…

…the other. And sometimes, as I said, it's my colleague, and sometimes it's my jewish godfather, and sometimes it is my. What Jung called the sore mystica, or what my brother Daniel is called the sore mistress. It is, you know, has this erotic connotation…

…the recovery of the unconscious. First, the sexual nature of the unconscious through Freud, later, the mass archetypal structure through Jung. In other words, the great movements of the 20th century, even Marxism can be seen as efforts to recapture…

…of resonance with the transcendental object such that they, in a sense, embodied it well, in our own era because of technology. And Jung was on when he wrote his book in 1948 called Flying Saucers, a modern myth of things seen in the sky. He said,…

…discovery of the purification of mescaline in Berlin in 1897. Freud begins to publish around the turn of the century, Jung. They are discovering the primitive unconscious. They are revealing to edvardian and viennese, ladies and gentlemen of great culture and…

…it, the first swell, back to the turn of the century with relativity and theosophy and surrealism and the work of Freud and Jung on the unconscious. But it's a discovery, a moving toward a realization that the values that can serve us are archaic values…

…so people need to find like minded people. Yeah. Terrence, I was interested in your of fate. It reminded me of a quote by Jung where he says that fate is doing willingly that which I must do. And I was wondering about this concept of fate you were…

…of LSD and masculine. Those seem to be largely explorations of human dimensions, psychoanalytic, and the collective unconscious of Jung, dimensions of historical resonance and that sort of thing. But there was not the prevalence of the extraterrestrial theme…

…You know, if you examine in and look at it, many objects are like this. Is it possible that the personality is fractal? Jung made a lot of metaphorical statements about the behavior of the psyche based on the behavior of mercury. The metal, the liquid…

…and these various crude, fine, crude interventions into the human experience which keep us from destroying ourselves. This is also what Jung called the collective unconscious, right? But he painted it as a very passive kind of thing, more like a data bank…

…tissue while sparing the host. And in the area of psychology, there were parallel developments. The theories of Freud and Jung were being developed into increasingly useful clinical tools and approaches to mental illness, and on the basis of experimental…

…from western consciousness. Psychedelic drugs, especially psilocybin, allow a searchlight to be thrown on these deeper levels of the psyche, as Jung correctly stated. But it is not a museum of archetypes or psychic constructs, as he seemed to assume. It is…

…is going on. But it's preposterous to claim that this is a psychological phenomenon, because these are changes in the world, what Jung called synchronicity, and made a certain model of. But what it really is is that an alternative physics is beginning to…

…moment. He thought it would become matter in the act of appropriate activity. Instead, what emerged was a totality symbol. And Jung talks about how in the individuation process, you always hope that the patient or the client will generate a totality symbol.…

…in childhood. In other words, out of the present, but still within the context of the life of the experience. And then Jung bringing in, trying to say, well, it's that, but it's more than that. And bringing in the notion of a collective unconscious.…

…a psychedelic drug, and then someone you've been thinking of who lives far away shows up at your doorstep. This kind of thing, Jung. The word synchronicity was coined by Jung, and it means a meaningful coincidence. But I think it was PD Bridgman who said…

…been thinking of who lives far away shows up at your doorstep. This kind of thing, Jung. The word synchronicity was coined by Jung, and it means a meaningful coincidence. But I think it was PD Bridgman who said that a coincidence is what you have left…

…what we all experience is mental health and certainly doesn't require any drug intervention because it in fact is normality. But Jung and others have had more the idea of an open ended process, that there is an unlimited potential for understanding and…

…be investigated. I mean, if there's a chemical agent which can repeatedly trigger a phenomenon that bizarre, it should be looked at. Jung very early suggested in a book called Flying Saucers, a modern myth of things seen in the sky that he published in…

…then, accounts differ. And those of you who really want to get into this, I recommend you read mysterium cunjunctiones by Jung, the mysterious conjunction. And he discusses the negro, the negredo, in great detail. Another symbol for the negredo is the…

…this is what we're after. And if you possess it, nothing else is worth anything because it is psychic completion, peace of mind. Jung called it the self. It's the self that we are trying to recover. And remember, we talked about the gnostic myths of the…

…entities that we find in our own mind. So it doesn't do any good to psychologize the alien and say, as Jung attempted to say, well, it's the autonomous. Other autonomous psychic components in the human mind present themselves as elves, fairies, sprites,…

…taking the drug again. I think the dark night of the soul is a natural and unavoidable part of any psychological growth process. Jung called it the negredo, taking a term from alchemy. My idea of the way to use psychedelics is very similar to how the…

…and that sort of thing. The tryptamines that interest me are sort of beyond the problem of the neurotic personality. You know, Jung had this notion that psychic health was something that went on till the day you died, that what individuation meant was…

…discovery of the purification of mescaline in Berlin in 1896. Freud begins to publish around the turn of the century, Jung. They are discovering the primitive unconscious. They are revealing to edvardian and viennese ladies and gentlemen of great culture and…

…of realism and gives you a feeling tone thing which was very antithetical to victorian edwardian thought. Then Freud and Jung describe different aspects of the unconscious. But to do it, Freud has to talk about, repress primitive sexual imaginings. Jung…

…and Jung describe different aspects of the unconscious. But to do it, Freud has to talk about, repress primitive sexual imaginings. Jung talks about folklore, fairy tales and mythology. Meanwhile, the dados and the surrealists are saying we have to break up…

…comes in the natural and available form of the dream, which always, to some degree, has shaped human culture. But for Freud and Jung in the early 20th century and their followers, the dream took on a whole new significance that it had never had before.…

…of light that can move at any speed and become any object and answer any question. Well, it's an archetype of wholeness. Jung, in his flying saucer book, talked about this thing in alchemy called the rotundum, which was the thing which spins, you know?…

…call unhappiness. It isn't for that. It is. And again, this may be the influence of jung in my background. Background. You know, Jung felt that there was no such thing as normality, that life, the task of life, was what he called individuation. And he…

…There's a connection down into the molecular level. This will be our last one this morning. Language transcendence. Huxley, Jung, and others often mention liberating and enlightening epiphanies as beyond language and iconic imagery. You yourself mention this.…

…that all of the and I see the whole of the 20th century, you know the discovery of the unconscious by Freud and Jung, the dissolving of the naturalistic image at the hands of the cubists, the probing of the dream state by the surrealists, the…

…object at the end of time haunt the skies of this planet in the form of spinning vortices of contradiction. This is what. What Jung said. He said, you know, the UFO is an image of the self, and I don't mean the little self. I mean the collective…

…and mythology. And these were the two poles of the data field that the discovery of the unconscious was working on. Well, then Jung had the prescience to realize that alchemy, which to that point, as the gentleman over here said, had been dismissed as a…

…But, you know, this is like conjuring. This doesn't explain anything. This is just some kind of stream of gobbledygook. I mean, Jung talks about autonomous psychic complexes which have escaped the control of the ego that's what he mean. He means an elf,…

…little more jungian than that, and. We talk about the collective unconscious, but in a way, I though I'm more sympathetic to Jung. I like phrase superego because the phrase collective unconscious is a kind of blah concept. It's like a data bank, a…

…So I, as most people do, or would I think, looked to tradition for some kind of guidance about what this was and read Jung and read Mercia Layad and saw parallels, but not a clear congruency saw in the iconography of Tibetan Buddhism, seemed to me to…

…in childhood. In other words, out of the present but still within the context of the life of the experience. And then Jung bringing in, trying to say, well, it's that, but it's more than that. And bringing in the notion of a collective unconscious.…

…a psychedelic drug and then someone you've been thinking of who lives far away shows up at your doorstep. This kind of thing, Jung, the word synchronicity was coined by Jung, and it means a meaningful coincidence. But I think it was PD Bridgman who said…

…been thinking of who lives far away shows up at your doorstep. This kind of thing, Jung, the word synchronicity was coined by Jung, and it means a meaningful coincidence. But I think it was PD Bridgman who said that a coincidence is what you have left…

…what we all experience is mental health and certainly doesn't require any drug intervention because it, in fact, is normality. But Jung and others have had more the idea of an open ended process, that there is an unlimited potential for understanding and…

…it, the first swell back to the turn of the century with relativity and theosophy and surrealism and the work of Freud and Jung on the unconscious. But it's a discovery, a moving toward a realization that the values that can serve us are archaic values…

…the recovery of the unconscious. First the sexual nature of the unconscious through Freud. Later the mass archetypal structure through Jung. In other words, the great movements of the 20th century. Even Marxism can be seen as efforts to recapture prehistoric…

…from western consciousness. Psychedelic drugs, especially psilocybin, allow a searchlight to be thrown on these deeper levels of the psyche, as Jung correctly stated. But it is not a museum of archetypes or psychic constructs, as he seemed to assume. It is…

…is going on. But it's preposterous to claim that this is a psychological phenomenon. Because these are changes in the world, what Jung called synchronicity, and made a certain model of. But what it really is is that an alternative physics is beginning to…

…to the associating mind without trimming pruning, judging, denying. One of the great puzzles to me is the great antagonism between Jung and Joyce, because you would have thought that they would have been comrades in arms. But Joyce loathed psychoanalysis. He…

…in. The same tendency which had infected mannerism then came in as surrealism in the 20th century. And because of Freud and Jung and all this stuff. So I think that the whole history of 20th century art is a reaction against morbid romanticism, which…

…the contents of my own mind and astonished over and over again, where is this stuff coming from? And I looked at Jung and I entertained the fantasy of extraterrestrial contact and I still haven't answered this question, but I think it's a question which…

…kosher. Did you. Did you have a break with Catholicism or did it just mutate into all of your. It's sort of mutated. I read Jung is what happened. I read. I first read psychology and alchemy, and that led me on to the other one, which is deeper about…

…thing. And alchemy. It was a revelation to me all that. I didn't get religious history from the church the way I got it from Jung, because from Jung I realized it was books. And so you could read these books. It was tortuous. It was when I was first…

…It was a revelation to me all that. I didn't get religious history from the church the way I got it from Jung, because from Jung I realized it was books. And so you could read these books. It was tortuous. It was when I was first going to Cal. But…

…of human conventions or values. And that convinced me that it wasn't being generated from myself. And, you know, and then I read Jung, and I realized that there was a very way to define the self that would allow it to produce that kind of thing.…

…require messiahs, religions, and these various crude interventions into the human which keep us from destroying ourselves. This is also what Jung called the collective unconscious. Right? But he painted it as a very passive kind of thing, more like a data…

…as a very you know it's like trying to turn a battleship with an oar. It's very, very slow going but with Freud and Jung we get the discovery of the unconscious. I mean they discover it through a spyglass at 900 yards but they do announce that it's…

…The entirety of the 20th century has gone on under the aegis of this archaic revival. It begins with Freud and Jung, or earlier with impressionism. It works its way up through abstract expressionism and it has positive and negative manifestations. Fascism…

…right. So coming into the 20th century, that was it, the hashish and the opium thing. Well, then freud and behind him, Jung began to look at the products of pathological fantasy and the products of folklore and alchemy and the aroused imagination in its…

…and whatever that may take. Sounds good. Yeah. Terrence, I was interested in your concept of fate. It reminded me of a quote by Jung where he says that fate is doing willingly that which I must do. And I was wondering about the concept of fate. You…

…on. But what are we to do with an elf that becomes a little harder to contextualize in psychoanalytic theory? Although Jung did a good job when he said autonomous elements can escape from the psyche's control and present themselves as independent entities,…

…down through the french, english, german tradition of constipated male dominance. Instead, you know, intuit, that's what it is in Freud and Jung and the new age and intuit our way out. But now the intuition is rising to the surface. We no longer have…

…avenues to certain choices and precludes avenues to other choices. You know, I think it was in mysterium to junctiones that Jung said the unconscious has a thousand ways of terminating a life that has become meaningless. A chilling notion. And what he…

…is an out and out extraterrestrial, you know, with its own history, its own evolutionary standards, etcetera, that it is what Jung would call an autonomous portion of the psyche that has slipped beyond the ego's control, meaning that you're crazy, or at…

…Moment, he thought it would become matter in the act of appropriate activity. Instead, what emerged was a totality symbol. And Jung talks about how in the individuation process, you always hope that the patient or the client will generate a totality symbol.…

…first books ever written is, I think, one of the best. It's called flying saucers, a modern myth of things seen in the sky by Jung. And what he says is that I hope I don't have to do too much backgrounding for an audience like this. But as you know,…

…he says is that I hope I don't have to do too much backgrounding for an audience like this. But as you know, Jung analyzed alchemy and said that in the presence of a psyche, epistemologically naive about the real nature of matter, the contents of the…

…about the cosmic environment is approximately at the same level of sophistication as the 16th century's grasp of matter was. And so Jung said that he talked about in alchemy what's called the rotundum, that which spins. And he said the spinning rotundum is…

…room in it for this. Our model of what psychedelic drugs should do is derive from Freud and then secondarily from Jung. From Freud we derive the idea that the psychedelic drug should introduce you to neurotic thought processes, repressed memory, traumatic…

…you to neurotic thought processes, repressed memory, traumatic experience, guilt laden incidents that have been forgotten, this sort of thing. From Jung we inherit the idea that beyond that there is a landscape of myth and that we will encounter the great…

…which controls that. Now, if you're in a highly novel situation, then you get what Lilly calls cosmic coincidence, or Jung calls synchronicity. You get obvious connections which have no obvious casuistry behind them. They are connected through meaning, not…

…picture. And in some way we have lost our way. And it remained for giants of 20th century thought like Freud and Jung, to announce the startling fact that there was a human unconscious. And then it took still a different generation of researchers with…

…that we find in our own mind. So it doesn't do any good to see, psychologize the alien and say, as Jung attempted to say, well, it's the autonomous. Other autonomous psychic components in the human mind present themselves as elves, fairies, sprites,…

…minutes later, ideas are beginning to accompany this melting and flowing of perception that's. We've now reached surrealism and Freud and Jung, the discovery of the unconscious. Well, then it keeps going. It gets more and more intense. Now we don't see…

…and your memories of the past, all of your experience is returned to you. And beyond that, you dissolve then into what Jung called the collective conscious, or something like that. And then beyond that, giant mind, cosmic mind. I mean, I'm no fan of…

…as pagans and magicians, we really understand that the mind can do anything. And there's a horribly frightening little passage in Jung somewhere where he says, the unconscious has a thousand ways to terminate a life that has become meaningless, meaning, you…

…It's an incredible challenge to human understanding to try and make sense of this. And I started out, you know, reading Jung, doing my hindu, you know, getting up to speed with all that, studying Zen Buddhism, studying shamanism. The thing that puzzles…

…the rise and neo platonic philosopher said that he thought Christianity was a disease of the soul. And I think Freud and Jung have pretty much proved the same thing. Well, long before the viral metaphor, somewhat before the viral metaphor became a courant,…

…Jung have pretty much proved the same thing. Well, long before the viral metaphor, somewhat before the viral metaphor became a courant, Jung talked about what he called psychic epidemics. He, in, I think, 1934, wrote an essay on the return of Wotan as an…

…this much larger phenomenon which I call the archaic revival. You know, the discovery of the unconscious through Freud and Jung, the deconstruction of the image. First the image seen through impressionism, and then the image imagined is deconstructed through…

…so on. Then if further time passes and I don't take the mushroom, I finally am able to struggle up on the beach of Jung island. And there I convince myself it must just be, you know, that the human mind is haunted by the archetypes of the collective…

…people hit the front door of a hospital, they're given stelazine or lithium or something. And yet, you know, it seems more as though Jung was on the right track. This is a process in the dynamics of the unconscious that wants to work itself out to a…

…it more complicated than that? Well, in other words, we know Freud had a notion of how the personality was constructed. Jung brought another vocabulary to bear. Are these meaningful vocabularies? Is there still a place for the id, the superego, the…

…how to ask the kinds of questions we ask. And so you can only go so far with that. And eventually you realize, you know, Jung won't help you or mercy liad or. No, you have to make sense of this on. On your own terms. It's very unexpected that this…

…discovered the parallel continuum. It begins with Freud and noticing something about the fantasies of these viennese housewives and then Jung splicing in the myths, and then the surrealists and Eliade, and then the drug people come along and Huxley and…