…is that this was Bush the younger when he was running for president. Additionally, at one point he says he had hoped that John Mack would also have been there. And that seems to indicate a UFO conference of some kind, but. Well, I don't think it was…

…hysteria. So let's create a drug which inside the drug we will be able to deal with people. And I was hoping that John Mack, who's an expert on UFO abductions, would be here this weekend. I expected him because I think this whole abduction thing is not…

…the. Holcomb and. I spent time. I've argued with Bud Hopkins. I've had lunch with Whitley Strieber. I've argued vociferously with John Mack. And these people are second class thinkers. You would not send them to investigate a bus accident. I'm sorry that…

…cannot understand it by consuming it from the media, because all these people that you hear about, Jacques Vallee and Bud Hopkins and John Mack, the gods of this. Do you think they would stand out if they were sitting here in this room? Do you think if…

…realize the implications of being abducted by an alien spacecraft? I don't think I would be satisfied to just tell my story to John Mack and become case number 232 and then sit back and let him handle the public relations fall out of it. These people…