…make a woman do that sort of thing? There's always, if you're a careful observer of one of these things, there's always. Jacques Valet wrote about this, a residuum of absurdity that is suppressed by the witness because the witness knows that if they told…

…either means that the Ministry of Defense is falling down on their job, or they must know what's going on. Well, now, Jacques Valet is the person who said, who pioneered in the study of flying saucers. He said, the way to understand flying saucers is…

…organization, then we should ask, why? What is it doing? And I don't want to sound like a public relations agent for Jacques Valet, but to my mind, with the exception of jungden, Jacques is the only commentator on the phenomenon who has really pushed the…

…Jacques is the only commentator on the phenomenon who has really pushed the frontier back to my mind. In the invisible college, when Valet says, in looking at the effect, not asking the question, what is it? But what does it do? You very quickly see…

…leafleted the crowd with an attack on it. Shows you what a nut I am. For those of you who don't know, Jacques Valet had a very interesting approach to understanding flying saucers, and I still think this is the best method. His argument went something…

…the other earlier in your talk, has a transformation that you're describing as going through for the time in the future. Yes. Jacques Valet was a UFO researcher, and the book that was mentioned, passport to Magonia, was one of his earliest books on the…