…it gets out of the ditch it heads back in the same direction it has a vector field preference. And then you mentioned David Bohm. His idea of emergent properties seems to achieve the same end without a telos of novelty theory. He simply says: when you…

…trying to reason upward from the laws of atomic physics to organisms is not going to work, that there are what David Bohm and other people, I suppose called emergent properties at every level there's nothing magical about that concept. I mean think of…

…it's been known in the physics community for decades that there is an alternative to the Heisenberg Bohr model. It was developed by David Bohm God REST his soul and Bohm's Theory of quantum gravity and so forth and so on gives just as good results as…

…as the Bohr Heisenberg model. In other words as an experimental theory it's as good. Why was Bohr Heisenberg chosen over David Bohm? It was chosen because David Bohm's Theory has a really counterintuitive notion built into it so fundamentally that it cannot…

…Bohr Heisenberg model says you cannot know both simultaneously. This is a basic property of the universe? Not not at all. In the Bohm model you can know the exact position and the exact velocity with no side of hand, no tricks but you have to swallow…

…of science and ideas, is that in the last six months, there's been a very interesting effort to look again at David Bohm's work. David Bohm is now dead, and I believe he taught here, or he visited here many times. In any case, his ideas are well known…

…around this problem in physics in the last 70 years than in any other. Well, it turns out that if you go with David Bohm, there is no uncertainty. You can know the position and the speed, the velocity, with perfect certainty at the same moment of time.…

…the 9th entities operating in an environment of connectivity, that you get. And now we switch philosophers and vocabularies, what David Bohm called emergent properties, and what you and I would call anybody's guess. I mean, that's what an emergent property…

…theory, is now not to be preferred. The preferred understanding now is the version of quantum theory formulated by David Bohm. The difference between these two theories, mathematically is precisely zero. There is no difference, but they make different…

…nonlocality. If you accepted this b theory of the quanta. So it was rejected out of hand. This was a theory formulated by David Bohm. Well, now it comes back to haunt them because there is non locality. It's been confirmed. At first it was only there…

…its spin, even though they're now separated in time and space. So the physics community, and let me say about the Bohm theory and the Bohr Heisenberg formulation, the mathematics is identical. The mathematics is identical. One does not give better results…

…doubt that the Heisenberg thing will survive. It was actually a mistake. And what I want to say then, about the Bohm formulation is with Bohm's mathematics, velocity and location can be known simultaneously to any limit of exactitude. There is no…

…then? By implication, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's late in the day to take all that on, but it is very interesting that David Bohm, who was thought to be a kind of a garrulous crank by straight physicists for years and years, it is now being understood…

…physicists for years and years, it is now being understood that we're on the brink of a retroactive revolution in physics. David Bohm has a better theory of the Quanta than the Copenhagen school, and his theory gives the same level of predictive refinement…