c/psychedelic-salon
Dive into the archives of psychedelic thought. Lorenzo Hagerty hosts essential conversations on entheogens, science, and the counterculture.
…runs slowly and it runs quickly it has a kind of modulated speed. Well it's been a commonplace of western cosmology since Darwin although it's never been elevated to the status of a law or even a principle that complex steady complexification has occurred…
…and darwinism was all the fashion. In a sense I think taylor was misunderstood. He was not so much a critic of Darwin as someone who wanted to extend darwinian mechanics and darwinian theory into domains that perhaps did not seem intuitive to a biologist.…
…but it has certainly come to me recently as a revelation, and I want to give George Dyson some credit here his book Darwin Among the machines is a wonderful introduction to some of the ideas I want to touch on this morning, one of which seemed…
…are completely out of control. Something totally unexpected maybe will happen but for much of the time in the past we've seen I think Darwin emphasized this in his later theory that it is ethics it is a moral sense on the part of you which was the…
…time when there's a tremendous amount of interest in evolutionary psychology. Psychologists in the last five to ten years have discovered Darwin and I keep meeting psychologists who speak to me that sort of enthusiasm and bright eyed quality of the new…
…who speak to me that sort of enthusiasm and bright eyed quality of the new convert. They've seen the light, they've discovered Darwin and I wonder why as a biologist, they haven't discovered Darwin a long time ago? Darwin, after all, opened up the field…
…of the new convert. They've seen the light, they've discovered Darwin and I wonder why as a biologist, they haven't discovered Darwin a long time ago? Darwin, after all, opened up the field of evolutionary psychology with his book the expression of emotions…
…seen the light, they've discovered Darwin and I wonder why as a biologist, they haven't discovered Darwin a long time ago? Darwin, after all, opened up the field of evolutionary psychology with his book the expression of emotions in man and the animals,…
…kind of science where more people are empowered to take part and when you think about it, the kind of base that Darwin drew on exists today, and even more so. There are tens of thousands of amateur plant breeders, there are amateur orchid growers…
…a fancy word meaning purpose. And what happened, you see, is it's just simply a legacy of our intellectual history. When Darwin developed the theory of evolution in the 19th century, english intellectual society was under the sway of Christianity. And it…
…in England, people believed this with perfect confidence, that they were at the cutting edge of intellectual understanding. Well, Darwin wanted to overcome deism, which was this all pervasive belief in an interventionist creator who was literally guiding the…
…belief in an interventionist creator who was literally guiding the flight of every atom and the fall of every leaf. And Darwin said, we don't need this kind of invasive deistic plenumen. Let's just take the process of mutation, a random process driven…
…evolution, who, if I believed in reincarnation, I would claim him as my own. Alfred Russel Wallace was unable to agree with Darwin, and he said, no. That accounts for minor change in organisms, natural selection. But how can you use those processes to…
…science, science, that it would extend its methods into social phenomena. Having had such great success in the 19th century with Darwin and Wallace in biology, they thought, well then Herbert Spencer and all these people, why not just extend it into…
…that are unanticipated. So when they looked at the shape of the continents, they discovered continental drift. When Wallace and Darwin looked at the distribution of butterflies over indonesian islands, they suddenly had a vision of the origin of species. How…
…psychedelic community to my mind, is Rupert Sheldrake, and Rupert is a botanist, a natural scientist, a man in the tradition of Darwin and WaLlACE we're trying to say. And what is being realized, I think, is that the psychedelics have always been exerting…
…dealing with the psychedelic era. We are like people talking about evolution in 1855. You know, a few of us have read Darwin paper. Nobody is sure exactly what it means. It's a strong intuition of something. The species thing is a problem. Nobody's quite…
…of probability. That is how the universe actually sculpts itself into higher and higher form. This is not the theory of evolution that Darwin came up with, which sort of pushes from behind. It's a theory that there is a kind of attractor in the future…
…of science that it would extend its methods into social phenomena. Having had such great success in the 19th century with Darwin and Wallace and biology, they thought, well then Herbert Spencer and all these people, why not just extend it into society?…
…means people didn't know what was going on. They weren't even close. And yet we are asked to believe that somewhere after Darwin and before, now it was all figured out. And now we view the universe from a lofty pinnacle of integrated understanding. Now…
…is flattened by the banality of modernity. This is the heritage of all the bad little boys of the 19th century. Nietzsche and Darwin and Hegel and Schopenhauer. These clowns were on a bad trip and they were loud about it. And what they give us is…
…through this relationship with our machines. I think I said at one of these other meetings that I read George Dyson's book, Darwin among the machines, which, if you're interested in all this, is a great book to read. And the point that he makes…
…you it may be because it is trivial, and I just never quite understood it before. But I recently read George Dyson's book, Darwin among the machines, which is a wonderful book if you haven't read it. It's basically a history of the idea of thinking…
…that God is a clock maker and that God made the universe and wound it up like a clock and went away. And what irked Darwin and Lyle and those people was the idea that the universe has a purpose. You see, they thought, thought that if it has a…
…how reality works. What I mean by teleology is purpose. And let me explain briefly the history of this problem. When Darwin invented evolution in the 19th century, it was possible to call yourself an english intellectual and actually believe that the planet…
…the planet came into existence on September 4, 4004 BC. That was a respectable intellectual opinion in british parlors of 1850. Darwin, the whole intellectual world, was under the spell of deism. The idea that the universe was the creation of a benevolent…
…The idea that the universe was the creation of a benevolent God who was guiding it from its birth to its death. And Darwin opposed this and said, in the phenomenon of random mutation and natural selection, no plan, no purpose, no end state is being…
…anybody can tell, it is the primary value on the page. It sets the arrow of time. It redeems biology from just being, as Darwin saw it, red in tooth and claw. It's far more than that. You know, it's an architecture. It's a plan. It's an unfolding. And…
…how you will steer the car. Well, it has been for the past 150 years, extremely fashionable in sociology and biology because of Darwin. To deny telos in nature. To say that any apparent order in nature is made up of the disorder of random mutation…
…on, it was clear to me that this had to have evolutionary implications. And it seemed to me as I read my Darwin and Freud that there had to be some kind of quickening influence in human emergence that, if nothing outright transcendental, was certainly…
…that are unanticipated. So when they looked at the shape of the continents, they discovered continental drift. When Wallace and Darwin looked at the distribution of butterflies over indonesian islands, they suddenly had a vision of the origin of species and…
…psychedelic community to my mind is Rupert Sheldrake and Rupert is a botanist, a natural scientist, a man in the tradition of Darwin and WaLlACe we're trying to say. And what is being realized I think, is that the psychedelics have always been exerting a…
…experience can modify nuclear DNA, which is denied by anti lamarckian evolution. That's not the way it's supposed to. Work, according to Darwin and the neo Darwinians. Nevertheless, if we don't believe that the only part of the body which is not traded out…
…have the scientific attitude rolling up their and going in there with the same attitude that Wallace went to the Amazon and that Darwin went to the galapagos. And let's figure out, let's map the flora and fauna, let's get a taxonomy of these types. Let's…
…just proposed. I would roll up my sleeves and go into psychedelic explorations with the same scientific cast of mind as did Darwin when he went to the galapagos. Now, I know that probably sounds a little melodramatic, but if you've had a few dozen…
…of view on these matters, and I don't imagine I was invited here to dumb it down. So, you know, if you had Darwin, you'd get natural selection. If you had Freud, you'd get sexual repression. So you've got McKenna. So you're going to get psychoactive…
…frame thy fearful cemetery? That kind of symmetry, or symmetry, as we from the cattle towns of western. Colorado say, how does Darwin sit exist as far as the theories of evolution? I mean, are you basically implying that an accidental chaotic dance is…
…no rhythm, there is no reason, there is no rhyme to the unfoldment of evolution as we know it. Well, certainly that was Darwin idea. It's not necessarily mine. See, since the 19th century to the 20th century, the word chaos has actually changed. In the…
…chaos has actually changed. In the 19th century, chaos meant disorder and the gene. In a sense, you could almost say that Darwin was the first chaos theorist because they discovered the people, Darwin and his school, that you could take two processes which…
…and the gene. In a sense, you could almost say that Darwin was the first chaos theorist because they discovered the people, Darwin and his school, that you could take two processes which are both random, and that by running these two random processes…
…is essentially a theory which is an effort to account for the large numbers of diverse plants and animals on the planet. Darwin, in his diaries, referred to what he was doing as searching for a solution to the species problem. It was nothing thought…
…on. The great chain of being of Aristotle is animated, given a dimension of motion. And lo and behold, it becomes the Darwin Wallace theory of evolution. Marsiliad talks about this, about how all the alchemical dreams of the 15th and 16th century. Have…
…I mean, this may seem trivial to. You, it's new to me, so I'm into it. I read this book by George Dyson called Darwin among the Machines, and I. Highly recommend this book. This is a great book, fun book, Darwin among the machines. And one of the…
…read this book by George Dyson called Darwin among the Machines, and I. Highly recommend this book. This is a great book, fun book, Darwin among the machines. And one of the points that he. Makes in there that I had sort of. I mean, when you hear it,…
…left it going, in other words, the divine clockmaker. The universe was structured by a force which has now withdrawn from it. And Darwin and his circle were very clearly atheist, and they wanted to see biology as requiring no purpose to direct it at all.…
…so it's a different intellectual world. Well, now, when we look at nature, we see a kind of a different picture. We see that where Darwin said nature is all red in tooth claw, we see that the way to make your to be a successful species, the way to…
…I think, to suppose there is. A purpose, and also we see a. Level of global integration and global mutation that Darwin couldn't have even dreamed of, the idea of elements of time having their particular qualities. Have you correlated that with astrology…