…you have arrived at the beginning of the real path toward the saucer. Because you don't want to hear that Whitley Strieber or Bud Hopkins walked in through the purple doorway and was never seen again. You want to be the person to walk through the purple…

…But Holcomb does. Holcomb requires a relationship between the consumer of the. Holcomb and. I spent time. I've argued with Bud Hopkins. I've had lunch with Whitley Strieber. I've argued vociferously with John Mack. And these people are second class thinkers.…

…it. You cannot understand it by consuming it from the media, because all these people that you hear about, Jacques Vallee and Bud Hopkins and John Mack, the gods of this. Do you think they would stand out if they were sitting here in this room?…