…Giorgio Sammarini, Paul Stamets, Manuel Torres, Terrence McKenna, Rob Montgomery, Ken Symington, Sasha Shulgin, Ann Shulgin, Christian Rasch, Michael Bach and Jonathan Ott return with us to those lush and mysterious environs of palenque for one of our pair…

…point of view. Obviously, the earth has achieved great things outside the human realm, but within the human realm. Mozart and Bach and Milton and Rumi, all of this stuff has been achieved. And it represents an epigenetic accomplishment. It is not part…

…you may have had the expectation, you might think if you had never had a psychedelic experience, that it sort of begins like the Bach B minor fugue and goes from there as you rise into the realms of light and union with the deity or something like…

…bach and they want this. Forget it. Nobody's going to listen to you if you come out of this experience saying Johann Sebastian Bach is god we know that. And it's very confusing because the music becomes everything if you listen to it. I mean you cannot…

…I should leave you with this thought. Do these things in silent darkness and do them with attention. Silent darkness. You don't need Bach or moody blues to skip it. Silent darkness. Trust that your mind is richer than you think it is, and study the…

…year for a while now at Palenque or somewhere else in Mexico, because next year it'll be held at Palenque as well. And Michael Bach, who is one of the people who's figured all this out in Australia, is going to come and talk about it. Yeah, the old…

…elves, dancing mice, and little candies spinning against black backgrounds that's like suspended. And there's this organ tone, like from the Bach B minor mass. And these black velvet curtains begin to lift. And after about 15 seconds of that, you say,…

…people who do make great progress in all of these areas, you know, I mean, people who want to design electronic circuits or play Bach on the piano, but I don't do anything. I'm interested kind of in the essence of the thing, what it is, the ding.…

…organic world. I mean, where are you going to get Milton? Where are you going to get Einstein? Where are you going to get Bach and Duccio and all the rest of the gang out of the world of hummingbirds, chipmunks, and glaciers? So I don't think we…

…the temperature falls ten degrees in the room and a black curtain begins to rise and there's an organ note like that thing in the Bach B minor mass. And after about 15 seconds, you say, you know, call it off. I'm not ready for it. Let's go back to…

…show me what you are for yourself. And it's like the temperature drops 20 degrees, there's an enormous organ tone, like the Bach B minor mass, and black velvet curtains begin to rise on something so mind boggling and appalling that after about 30 seconds…

…nexus. What was the other question? The other question is, are you familiar with flower essence at all? You mean like Bach flower essence? I was wondering. I mean, they have flower essence that enhance, supposedly, you getting into more creative sense of…

…a whole school of apocalyptic portrayal. The most famous student, not student directly, but the most famous later painter influenced by Bach or Bosch. Not a painter, but. Well, a painter, but in this case, in his etchings, was Peter Brueghel the Elder,…