…this is really the sort of thing that I'm so grateful for because as amazing as it is to interview someone like William Leonard Picard, and it is, and it was great, and I look forward to releasing that, there's something about this that is almost in…

…look forward to releasing that, there's something about this that is almost in a certain way more rewarding because with William Leonard Picard, you have 50 people scratching at his door trying to make a documentary about him, maybe hundreds of people. With…

…everywhere in between. And I think it's kind of interesting to think that maybe 25 years ago, there was a period where William Leonard Picard or someone like that was working with David Nichols and it was all scientific research and then you look at the…

…Nichols is you know still doing scientific research and the interest in psychedelics is greater than it's ever been and William Leonard Picard is serving a life sentence William Leonard Picard is serving a life sentence in prison yeah yeah yeah absolutely I…

…research and the interest in psychedelics is greater than it's ever been and William Leonard Picard is serving a life sentence William Leonard Picard is serving a life sentence in prison yeah yeah yeah absolutely I mean I think My approach, I don't think…

…they had it in their lab the whole time could have seen them And did your time in the Nichols lab overlap with William Leonard Picard at all? Or did he come after you? I think Dave knew. I really don't know anything about that. I found out about…

…these different factors at play, and I think the duration one is often underappreciated. I was actually talking with William Leonard Picard recently, and he told me that in the 1960s, he half-commissioned, half-synthesized a synthetic cannabinoid that I think…