…no precedent for drug licensing under non-medical circumstances. This is an idea that has been bandied about Since the 1960s, Timothy Leary famously proposed an LSD license. And the idea, of course, is that this would limit the harms associated with the…

…if you're asking me, honestly, seriously, do I think there should be licenses to use psychedelics? No, I don't think so. I love Timothy Leary. I get where he was coming from with this idea of LSD licenses. It has a certain rationality to it, but I…

…greater influence on the world of psychedelics than any other single person, especially today. When we talk about somebody like Timothy Leary, it's usually the context of his influence on the 1960s or his past influence. But Terence McKenna is somebody that…

…what we see today. And the largest single difference was that nobody had access to psilocybin-containing mushrooms. Unless you were Timothy Leary or somebody that could fly to Mexico and go to Oaxaca and use mushrooms in an indigenous context, you simply…

…the 1960s when psychedelics are first becoming culturally important commodities, it was a very different scene. Psychedelic luminaries like Timothy Leary could travel to Mexico and try mushrooms, but that was about it. Believe it or not, people didn't realize…

…you want to set goals as a researcher, you need... This is the whole thing, I think, that really messed it up before with Timothy Leary and all these people They try to guide other people in, you know, we're going to give you a dose and we're going…