…this is also a conversation with a lawyer, Matt Zorn, who's representing Mindstate, a psychedelic pharmaceutical company that is run by Thomas Ray. as well as Tactagen, another company that's run by Matt Baggett. So Matt Zorn was doing amazing work as well,…

…Matt Baggett and Matt Zorn, were working very hard to prevent the prohibition of these substances, as was Mindstate, represented by Tom Ray and, again, Matt Zorn. Panacea also was working and Jason and I were working as individuals so we're not working as…