…to trying not to buy into this ridiculous us versus them mentality. You know, it would be so easy to look at someone like Terry DelCassen and say, oh, he's a narc. He's a bad guy. You should never talk to him. Fuck the police. Right. That he chose to…

…to do? We can't put on any affirmative evidence. We can't look at the underlying data you're relying upon. We can't get Mr. DelCassen here to talk about what he knows about it. So why should you be allowed to put in this evidence at all? Right.…

…knows about it. So why should you be allowed to put in this evidence at all? Right. And one of the things that Terry DelCassen was arguing was that, okay, these are already covered by the Federal Analog Act. So if this becomes an issue, if we suddenly…