…But even in the example that I just gave, which is the subject of a really great book by Lawrence Wright called Remembering Satan, toward the end of the book, he makes an argument, which is that even if the core claims made by the daughter of…

…sitting there thinking, you know, what do I want to think about? And, of course, with Michael, there comes the enemy, which is Lucifer, Satan, you know, the serpent. So I said, I want to visualize the serpent. And so I close my eyes, and it's in the…