…way the drugs are working in the body, right? You putting the person into a state of mind with those drugs. You know, Pliny says the magi have drugs that are so strong, mania-inducers specifically. that are so strong that you can get any you can extract…

…and over again, these compound formulae, you cannot make them unless you follow very precise instructions. And it's so bad that Pliny makes fun of it, right? Makes fun of this drug preparation by saying, look, the measurements he says that they're using…