…Slosby Cubensis on it. Okay, so provocative, but not exactly something comparable to, let's say, R. Gordon Wasson's meeting with Maria Sabina. But there was always a feeling that there's got to be some history here. There's no way that these internationally…

…remarkable to me in so many different ways. We're acting as if all of this knowledge of psilocybin is the exclusive property of Maria Sabina when that very well may not be the case. And I think it's far more likely that there has been a parallel…

…then the other aspect of this that's very interesting is... When you look at the history of psilocybin-containing mushrooms and Maria Sabina, it's endlessly controversial. It's almost absurd to see the degree to which Sabina has been used in different ways.…

…at the history of psilocybin-containing mushrooms and Maria Sabina, it's endlessly controversial. It's almost absurd to see the degree to which Sabina has been used in different ways. People see her as a poet, as a spiritual figure. People see her as a…

…to Wild Lady Jimenez three times, is that there is this dramatic difference between the way that you hear Maria Sabina being talked about, psychedelic conference where some academic in the humanities is presenting their latest research on the exploitation…

…thing that brings outsiders to them. There's a very small sort of tourist industry surrounding it, and there's a museum for Sabina, and there's a pride in someone of such tremendous international influence having come from that community. Thank you so much.…

…because, well, you could say that there isn't reciprocity with the Mazatec people. The reality is that the rituals of Maria Sabina created a industry where enormous amounts of money were made by people coming to that city wanting to experience psychedelics.…

…in a pretty isolated mountain town. So... I think that has been a good thing, even though terrible things happened to Maria Sabina. I think it's a kind of typical situation that you encounter in drug history where the problems of prohibition are blamed…

…on the counterculture, on hippies in Mexico. It was clear that there was international tourism to go to Huautla to have this experience. And Maria Sabina was at the center of all of it. So she was arrested. And she also made a lot of money off of it.…

…I don't know if you know this story, but Albert Hofmann, after isolating and synthesizing psilocybin, went to Woutla to give Maria Sabina synthetic psilocybin tablets in a sort of direct exchange to say, you gave us mushrooms, we give you the fruits of…

…psilocybin-containing mushrooms grew in the United States. This was something that was discovered long after Wasson's trip to Oaxaca to meet Maria Sabina. On top of that, even when people did know that they grew in the United States, that was only something…

…that were afraid to talk about it or didn't want the attention, I mean, that's history that's lost. It will go directly from Maria Sabina and R. Gordon Watson to 21st century. Well, funny you should say that. You know, I've given away a lot of things…