…to know what he's talking about. And it is certainly very provocative. It's not without precedent. Obviously, people like Karl Ruck have endlessly researched similar areas. This is not the first time somebody has brought up the possibility of psychoactive…

…am interested in and the angle that I, that I come from. is from the language and the science. And that's why Dr. Ruck, who is a phenomenal philologist, most amazing classical philologist I've ever worked with, by far okay this guy is skilled that's what…

…is they're doing the same thing with the adults and the production of the drugs and the body And people don't realize, Carl Ruck knows, he's written about it, about the use of body fluids. Hamilton, I got to tell you, there's so many body fluids being…

…of medicine? Well, I mean, I think that so much of this has been relegated to the fringes of the fringes, right? Karl Ruck, as you said, is somebody who was really not taken seriously. And even among people in the psychedelic world, these questions about…

…Yeah, a ton of mushroom use. Every time for the last 10 years that I've gotten a reference to mushrooms, I'll send to Ruck just to pile on, man, because people were giving him a hard time about talking about the use of mushrooms in antiquity. It's…

…the immortality key and Brian Moroscu? Is that a work that you have any opinions on? Yeah, yeah. Brian was sent to me by Carl Ruck. And Brian, I had a couple of interviews with him just on the phone, but we covered a big swath of material from the…

…are there. And then it came out and I, you know, I think it is an interesting vindication of work of people like Karl Ruck. I think it really does vindicate his work in this area, you know, just pushing into this area, just vindicates, justifies the…