…creating a DIY COVID vaccine. And also I'm going to interview a journalist named John Semley who profiled Jason Wallach for Wired recently about the difficulty covering the psychedelic pharmaceutical industry for popular magazines. Because man, are journalists…

…chemistry is i think a really appealing strategy too yeah yes certainly certainly and uh And, you know, the chemist I work with, Jason Wallach, is also a big fan of your show and watches all watches the videos. I mean, it is I think that there's just…

…I know, he was not able to dig up additional information But we kept talking, and eventually he started collaborating with Jason Wallach as an expert witness in some of his trials. There's actually a really interesting story about that that I'll save for…

…it is thought to be a very strong behavioral correlate for 5-HT2A agonism. So this is a discussion with my good friend, Dr. Jason Wallach. We are talking about the first paper from 1956 on the HTR, and I hope you enjoy it. I imagine you've had the…