Okay, this is an interview many months in the making. I share a friend with a famous adult actress, Janice Griffith, and I wanted to interview her years ago and we kept meeting to do the interview and then we would both get too stoned to do the…

…and audiences and these puritanical vestiges in our morality And I think this is a really interesting conversation because Janice Griffith is a friend. She's a really interesting person. She has an interesting relationship with drugs in that she's probably…

…I don't know that many people that use ketamine somewhat regularly who seem to be genuinely very highly functional. And Janice Griffith is one of those people. This conversation touches on all sorts of things ranging from psychiatry to ketamine telemedicine…

…like a, a like protector. Exactly. A preventer of badness. I, I actually had some fans who were like, oh, you can tell Janice Griffith is shooting up drugs, blah, blah, blah, and like, Like, it's so clear she's a meth head. And I was like, that's…